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Ufton Nervet crossing, (shh... we're pretending nothing happened) |
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May 23 2012, 04:40 PM
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I see that the crash victim has been named..... Newbury Today linkNot going to speculate on what might have happened as the thread will be deleted, but from the link it says that as well as the 2004 tragedy the Ufton crossing has been the scene of 'several other deaths'..... Is that true? or are we referring to deaths going back to the mists of time and including every horse and cart that might have been hit since the 1840s......... QUOTE The Ufton Nervert level crossing was the scene of a crash in 2004 which resulted in the death of seven people when a train derailed after hitting a car parked across the line.
It has also been the scene of several other deaths and near misses in recent years.
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May 24 2012, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ May 24 2012, 12:34 PM) I don't understand why they use half barriers on any level crossing. They should be full barriers across the network. They use half barriers on automatic crossing because there is no human observation to see if anyone is trapped on the crossing. If someone was trapped on full barriers there would be no escape route. The half barrier allows an escape route although, most unfortunately, not for this poor individual in this instance.
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May 24 2012, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 24 2012, 04:44 PM) They use half barriers on automatic crossing because there is no human observation to see if anyone is trapped on the crossing. If someone was trapped on full barriers there would be no escape route. The half barrier allows an escape route although, most unfortunately, not for this poor individual in this instance. That's a fair point - but you don't need half barriers on both sides to provide an escape route. Of course what they really need is automatic rising bollards .
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May 24 2012, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ May 24 2012, 05:14 PM) That's a fair point - but you don't need half barriers on both sides to provide an escape route. Yes you do as you need an escape for both directions of travel.
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May 24 2012, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 24 2012, 09:58 PM) Yes you do as you need an escape for both directions of travel. Why? Cars come with forward and reverse gears.
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May 25 2012, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ May 24 2012, 11:16 PM) Why? Cars come with forward and reverse gears. You enter the crossing, the barrier behind you comes down, the barrier in front of you comes down, you have a train approaching at 100mph - where do you go? you can neither go forward or reverse and a 8 point turn to reach the single open barrier on the opposite side may take some time!
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May 25 2012, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 25 2012, 07:52 AM) You enter the crossing, the barrier behind you comes down, the barrier in front of you comes down, you have a train approaching at 100mph - where do you go? you can neither go forward or reverse and a 8 point turn to reach the single open barrier on the opposite side may take some time! Maybe for the average snail, but cars tend to travel fast enough not to have that problem
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May 25 2012, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (Darren @ May 25 2012, 12:23 PM) Maybe for the average snail, but cars tend to travel fast enough not to have that problem What about tractors, construction vehicles, or a horse ( actually they would probably scarper off down the track leaving the rider behind )? You have to consider every possible scenario.
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May 25 2012, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (Local resident @ May 25 2012, 12:39 PM) What about tractors, construction vehicles, or a horse ( actually they would probably scarper off down the track leaving the rider behind )? You have to consider every possible scenario. From the Highway Code. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTrans...ycode/DG_069864294 Railway telephones. If you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle, a long, low vehicle with a risk of grounding, or herding animals, a train could arrive before you are clear of the crossing. You MUST obey any sign instructing you to use the railway telephone to obtain permission to cross. You MUST also telephone when clear of the crossing if requested to do so. [Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 16(1)]
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May 25 2012, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ May 25 2012, 07:59 PM) From the Highway Code. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTrans...ycode/DG_069864294 Railway telephones. If you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle, a long, low vehicle with a risk of grounding, or herding animals, a train could arrive before you are clear of the crossing. You MUST obey any sign instructing you to use the railway telephone to obtain permission to cross. You MUST also telephone when clear of the crossing if requested to do so. [Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 16(1)] Yes, but what if the phone isn't working?
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May 25 2012, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 25 2012, 08:50 PM) Yes, but what if the phone isn't working? You don't cross. Simple.
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May 25 2012, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE (Darren @ May 25 2012, 08:53 PM) You don't cross. Simple. What if you are being chased by violent criminals who want to steal your sheep/tractor & trailer....?
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May 25 2012, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 25 2012, 09:01 PM) What if you are being chased by violent criminals who want to steal your sheep/tractor & trailer....? Get attack sheep and lure them in. Then write a letter to the Daily Mail complaining.
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ce May 25 2012, 12:09 PM Nothing Much Whilst I would not wish to diminish the seriousnes... May 25 2012, 03:55 PM Strafin http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/b...kusao... Jun 1 2012, 06:26 PM Timbo Funnily enough - was watching this at work. Well, ... Jun 1 2012, 06:30 PM NWNREADER QUOTE (Timbo @ Jun 1 2012, 07:30 PM) Funn... Jun 1 2012, 08:00 PM
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