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post May 23 2012, 04:40 PM
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I see that the crash victim has been named.....
Newbury Today link

Not going to speculate on what might have happened as the thread will be deleted, but from the link it says that as well as the 2004 tragedy the Ufton crossing has been the scene of 'several other deaths'..... Is that true? or are we referring to deaths going back to the mists of time and including every horse and cart that might have been hit since the 1840s.........

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The Ufton Nervert level crossing was the scene of a crash in 2004 which resulted in the death of seven people when a train derailed after hitting a car parked across the line.

It has also been the scene of several other deaths and near misses in recent years.
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post May 25 2012, 09:48 AM
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I don't believe that this case was a suicide but an accident. We will see what the Coroner says.
However there will always be people attempting suicide by one method or another and in all cases it causes untold misery and disruption.

I believe that there should be a legal process that would require the agreement and protection of two doctors to state that if a person was of a sound mind and was fully aware of the finality of the decision then there would be a clinic to go to in order to die in a calm and controlled environment. Similar to the clinics in Switzerland that assist people to pass away.


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post May 25 2012, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (Bloggo @ May 25 2012, 10:48 AM) *
I don't believe that this case was a suicide but an accident. We will see what the Coroner says.
However there will always be people attempting suicide by one method or another and in all cases it causes untold misery and disruption.

I believe that there should be a legal process that would require the agreement and protection of two doctors to state that if a person was of a sound mind and was fully aware of the finality of the decision then there would be a clinic to go to in order to die in a calm and controlled environment. Similar to the clinics in Switzerland that assist people to pass away.


I agree that this was likely to be an accident, but the issue isn't what caused the crash be it accidental or deliberate, it's about what can be realistically done to prevent it given that we are all human beings with the capability of choosing our own destiny to either live according to the rules we set out for ourselves, or make reckless and life threatening decisions for ourselves and others.

A knee-jerk reaction is to say, 'build a bridge', but that just introduces a whole new set of hazards and risks, as the Selby (Great Heck) and Eschede crashes illustrate.
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post May 25 2012, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (Local resident @ May 25 2012, 11:52 AM) *
A knee-jerk reaction is to say, 'build a bridge', but that just introduces a whole new set of hazards and risks, as the Selby (Great Heck) and Eschede crashes illustrate.

Is that a typo for Enschede, or is that somewhere else? Just asking.

Ah yes. Just checked it out. 1998 - someone has a long memory.
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post May 25 2012, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ May 25 2012, 04:36 PM) *
Is that a typo for Enschede, or is that somewhere else? Just asking.

Ah yes. Just checked it out. 1998 - someone has a long memory.

Enschede is in the Netherlands - made the news when a firework factory located in a residential area, blew up.

Eschede train disaster was caused by a fractured wheel on a German ICE train. The train derailed & hit a bridge, which collapsed.
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- spartacus   Ufton Nervet crossing   May 23 2012, 04:40 PM
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