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Ufton Nervet crossing, (shh... we're pretending nothing happened) |
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May 23 2012, 04:40 PM
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I see that the crash victim has been named..... Newbury Today linkNot going to speculate on what might have happened as the thread will be deleted, but from the link it says that as well as the 2004 tragedy the Ufton crossing has been the scene of 'several other deaths'..... Is that true? or are we referring to deaths going back to the mists of time and including every horse and cart that might have been hit since the 1840s......... QUOTE The Ufton Nervert level crossing was the scene of a crash in 2004 which resulted in the death of seven people when a train derailed after hitting a car parked across the line.
It has also been the scene of several other deaths and near misses in recent years.
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May 24 2012, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ May 24 2012, 12:34 PM) I don't understand why they use half barriers on any level crossing. They should be full barriers across the network. They use half barriers on automatic crossing because there is no human observation to see if anyone is trapped on the crossing. If someone was trapped on full barriers there would be no escape route. The half barrier allows an escape route although, most unfortunately, not for this poor individual in this instance.
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May 24 2012, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 24 2012, 04:44 PM) They use half barriers on automatic crossing because there is no human observation to see if anyone is trapped on the crossing. If someone was trapped on full barriers there would be no escape route. The half barrier allows an escape route although, most unfortunately, not for this poor individual in this instance. That's a fair point - but you don't need half barriers on both sides to provide an escape route. Of course what they really need is automatic rising bollards .
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May 24 2012, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ May 24 2012, 05:14 PM) That's a fair point - but you don't need half barriers on both sides to provide an escape route. Yes you do as you need an escape for both directions of travel.
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May 24 2012, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 24 2012, 09:58 PM) Yes you do as you need an escape for both directions of travel. Why? Cars come with forward and reverse gears.
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May 25 2012, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ May 24 2012, 11:16 PM) Why? Cars come with forward and reverse gears. You enter the crossing, the barrier behind you comes down, the barrier in front of you comes down, you have a train approaching at 100mph - where do you go? you can neither go forward or reverse and a 8 point turn to reach the single open barrier on the opposite side may take some time!
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May 25 2012, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ May 25 2012, 07:52 AM) You enter the crossing, the barrier behind you comes down, the barrier in front of you comes down, you have a train approaching at 100mph - where do you go? you can neither go forward or reverse and a 8 point turn to reach the single open barrier on the opposite side may take some time! Then place the barriers a little further apart to allow the vehicle to steer around the half barrier without a multipoint turn.
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May 25 2012, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ May 25 2012, 08:57 AM) Then place the barriers a little further apart to allow the vehicle to steer around the half barrier without a multipoint turn. In most cases road layouts and nearby properties requiring vehicle access, or adjacent road junctions don't allow for this. If you are really desperate it is possible to crash through the barriers ( obviously you will wreck your car ). As I said in my first post, if you are sat on a level crossing, for WHATEVER reason, and you see the barriers come down ( which will mean a train is approaching and usually less than half a mile away as that is where the track treadles are usually sited ), you unclip your seat belt, open the door, get out, get your passengers out, and get off the crossing......... as quickly as you possibly can. Save yourself, not the car. The train just isn't going to stop in time at normal line speed ( which may only be 70 mph on that stretch of line due to the curves, but an HST is capable of 125mph as we all know ). Even if the barriers haven't come down you should follow the same course of action and telephone the signalman IMMEDIATELY. He can then set the signals to stop all trains in the vicinity so that your vehicle can be safely recovered. The default expectation, from a train drivers viewpoint, is that if the signal is green, then the crossing is NOT obstructed, and he WON'T apply the brakes. Remember that in venturing onto a level crossing you are gaining LIMITED access to the railway, and should not expect the normal rules and rights of the road user to apply.
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Oh dear. I feel this is going to get off-... May 24 2012, 08:46 AM Biker1 Best if we all leave it there I think? May 24 2012, 08:48 AM Roger T Okay, I agree.
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ce May 25 2012, 12:09 PM Nothing Much Whilst I would not wish to diminish the seriousnes... May 25 2012, 03:55 PM Strafin http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/b...kusao... Jun 1 2012, 06:26 PM Timbo Funnily enough - was watching this at work. Well, ... Jun 1 2012, 06:30 PM NWNREADER QUOTE (Timbo @ Jun 1 2012, 07:30 PM) Funn... Jun 1 2012, 08:00 PM
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