Welcome to Newburytoday.co.uk’s message boards where you can have your say and share your views on any number of issues.
Anyone can read messages, but only registered users can post messages, reply to messages or create new topics. As part of the free and simple registration, you will be asked to read and conform to the house rules.
To register, click here ……Enjoy the debate. Newbury Today Forum > Categories > Newbury News
Accident at Sainsbury's Roundabout, ...waiting to happen? |
|
|
|
May 17 2012, 02:45 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 129
Joined: 1-September 09
Member No.: 312
|
I was saddened to learn that the huge disruption to traffic this morning was due to an accident involving an elderly pedestrian on the Sainsbury's roundabout. It goes without saying that this is a tragedy for this gentleman's family and hopefully, forum members will refrain from 'smart alec' comments such as those which accompanied the posts on the Headley ford drowning.
But, I really wanted to question the safety of all the crossings around this roundabout. I have only recently (in an effort to save parking charges) taken advantage of Sainsbury's two hour free parking for customers and used these crossing points to go into the town centre. I was frankly, terrified - although there is a 40mph speed limit on this stretch of road and there are 'green man' signals for each of the separate crossing points, it feels quite unsafe as a pedestrian as traffic seems to be flying past and some drivers seem to accelerate wildly away from the lights. I am not elderly and my eyesight, hearing and faculties are fine but I have always been fearful, as a driver, that someone will step out in front of a car - and today, it would seem they did.
Of course I realise one could use the underpass, but, as a female, 'underpasses' are something I have always tried to avoid where there is an 'above ground' option. Maybe though, this might be a time to look at the safety of all these crossing points and consider whether to extend the railings and not allow pedestrians to cross above ground - maybe making the underpasses the only option?
--------------------
You can't shake hands with a clenched fist
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies
|
May 17 2012, 07:03 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 1,840
Joined: 24-July 09
Member No.: 221
|
QUOTE (Newbelly @ May 17 2012, 04:31 PM) I have previously thought whether the crossing should be moved a little towards the rail station to take it a bit away from the junction. They put crossings in places where there is an obvious 'desire line' to account for the fact that humans are bone idle and can be very dimwitted. If the crossing had been built 20m away from the junction (and even if there had been railings in place which guided people to the crossing and prevented you from just stepping into the road) you would STILL get far too many who couldn't be bothered with the extra 20m walk and would just climb over the railing so they could go in a straight line to their destination. On the A4 in Thatcham you have a pedestrian crossing at the junction with Stoney Lane, which leads to Kennet School. At the other end and within 200m (approx?) you have another pedestrian crossing at the Floral Way roundabout which also helps you to get to Francis Baily school... But EVERY school day you get parents parking in the Texaco garage and pulling their kids across the road into the path of moving traffic (and hoping someone will stop) because they can't be bothered with the fag of walking up to the crossing then walking back.... "It's an accident waiting to happen I tell you!" QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ May 17 2012, 05:16 PM) What this heavily-used roundabout actually needs - money allowing - is a North-South single lane in each direction bridge for light vehicles. (a bit like the Chiswick flyover). Why not have a tunnel instead? They could use the pedestrian subways that pedestrians are too scared to use....
|
|
|
|
|
May 17 2012, 07:05 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 6,056
Joined: 14-May 09
From: Bouvetøya
Member No.: 51
|
QUOTE (spartacus @ May 17 2012, 08:03 PM) They put crossings in places where there is an obvious 'desire line' to account for the fact that humans are bone idle and can be very dimwitted. If the crossing had been built 20m away from the junction (and even if there had been railings in place which guided people to the crossing and prevented you from just stepping into the road) you would STILL get far too many who couldn't be bothered with the extra 20m walk and would just climb over the railing so they could go in a straight line to their destination. On the A4 in Thatcham you have a pedestrian crossing at the junction with Stoney Lane, which leads to Kennet School. At the other end and within 200m (approx?) you have another pedestrian crossing at the Floral Way roundabout which also helps you to get to Francis Baily school... But EVERY school day you get parents parking in the Texaco garage and pulling their kids across the road into the path of moving traffic (and hoping someone will stop) because they can't be bothered with the fag of walking up to the crossing then walking back.... "It's an accident waiting to happen I tell you!" Why not have a tunnel instead? They could use the pedestrian subways that pedestrians are too scared to use.... You can see this in action with the Ped Crossings next to the cinema. People just jaywalk on the apex of the corrner instead.
|
|
|
|
Posts in this topic
wabbit Accident at Sainsbury's Roundabout May 17 2012, 02:45 PM Jayjay QUOTE (wabbit @ May 17 2012, 03:45 PM) I ... May 17 2012, 02:58 PM Roost All options for crossing this section of road have... May 17 2012, 03:08 PM royston QUOTE (wabbit @ May 17 2012, 03:45 PM) I ... May 17 2012, 03:12 PM andy1979uk Very sad for the man and his family, however I use... May 17 2012, 03:15 PM royston I totally agree drivers are ignoring the speed lim... May 17 2012, 03:15 PM Timbo Well, it's a shame this person was died/injure... May 17 2012, 03:12 PM Roger T A shame. Although, I walk across here daily, norma... May 17 2012, 03:17 PM TJHaines I hope the poor man makes a full recovery in Hospi... May 17 2012, 03:24 PM Newbelly Sorry to hear about the accident.
I have previous... May 17 2012, 03:31 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (Newbelly @ May 17 2012, 04:31 PM) ... May 17 2012, 03:56 PM Newbelly QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ May 17 2012, 04... May 17 2012, 03:59 PM wabbit QUOTE (Roger T @ May 17 2012, 03:17 PM) A... May 17 2012, 03:36 PM andy1979uk QUOTE (wabbit @ May 17 2012, 04:36 PM) As... May 17 2012, 03:43 PM Roger T You are correct Andy thank you. I thought I was be... May 17 2012, 03:55 PM Timbo QUOTE (wabbit @ May 17 2012, 04:36 PM) As... May 17 2012, 04:00 PM Biker1 QUOTE (Timbo @ May 17 2012, 05:00 PM) Cro... May 17 2012, 04:21 PM blackdog QUOTE (Timbo @ May 17 2012, 05:00 PM) You... May 17 2012, 06:41 PM dannyboy Without knowing the circumstances of the accident ... May 17 2012, 03:58 PM GMR QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 17 2012, 04:58 PM) ... May 17 2012, 04:05 PM dannyboy QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 05:05 PM) The w... May 17 2012, 04:10 PM Roger T QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 17 2012, 05:10 PM) ... May 17 2012, 04:12 PM GMR QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 17 2012, 05:10 PM) ... May 17 2012, 04:13 PM dannyboy QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 05:13 PM) I was... May 17 2012, 04:24 PM GMR QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 17 2012, 05:24 PM) ... May 17 2012, 04:26 PM dannyboy QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 05:26 PM) Would... May 17 2012, 04:27 PM GMR QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 17 2012, 05:27 PM) ... May 17 2012, 04:29 PM andy1979uk QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 05:29 PM) I hav... May 17 2012, 04:34 PM GMR QUOTE (andy1979uk @ May 17 2012, 05:34 PM... May 17 2012, 04:37 PM dannyboy QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 05:29 PM) I hav... May 17 2012, 04:54 PM GMR I was there when it happened (about 10ish this mor... May 17 2012, 04:04 PM Strafin QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 05:04 PM) I was... May 17 2012, 06:34 PM Berkshirelad For all those that claim that vehicles are constan... May 17 2012, 04:16 PM wabbit QUOTE (Timbo @ May 17 2012, 04:00 PM) You... May 17 2012, 04:18 PM dannyboy QUOTE (wabbit @ May 17 2012, 05:18 PM) So... May 17 2012, 04:26 PM Biker1 QUOTE (wabbit @ May 17 2012, 05:18 PM) bu... May 17 2012, 04:39 PM badger I cross at that junction several times a week. I ... May 17 2012, 04:37 PM wabbit QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 17 2012, 05:26 PM) ... May 17 2012, 04:54 PM theone09 It was a man not a women GMR!
Also, I've ... May 17 2012, 05:16 PM GMR QUOTE (theone09 @ May 17 2012, 06:16 PM) ... May 17 2012, 07:05 PM theone09 QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 08:05 PM) I was... May 17 2012, 09:05 PM GMR QUOTE (theone09 @ May 17 2012, 10:05 PM) ... May 17 2012, 09:07 PM dannyboy QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 10:07 PM) That ... May 17 2012, 09:15 PM GMR QUOTE (dannyboy @ May 17 2012, 10:15 PM) ... May 18 2012, 03:50 PM Squelchy QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 08:05 PM) I was... May 18 2012, 07:42 AM GMR QUOTE (Squelchy @ May 18 2012, 08:42 AM) ... May 18 2012, 03:51 PM Andy Capp Once they get to a certain age, they all look the ... May 17 2012, 06:31 PM GMR QUOTE (Andy Capp @ May 17 2012, 07:31 PM)... May 17 2012, 07:05 PM keef30 There was a 3 vehicle crash in Compton this mornin... May 17 2012, 06:45 PM spartacus QUOTE (GMR @ May 17 2012, 10:07 PM) That ... May 17 2012, 09:32 PM NWNREADER The debate of whether the victim was male or femal... May 17 2012, 10:59 PM GMR QUOTE (NWNREADER @ May 17 2012, 11:59 PM)... May 18 2012, 03:51 PM On the edge You may well have been right GMR. Ever seen that ... May 18 2012, 07:09 PM GMR QUOTE (On the edge @ May 18 2012, 08:09 P... May 18 2012, 08:46 PM
2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
|
|