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GMR
post Aug 18 2009, 07:48 PM
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Good policing by the council or just madness?

Commuter accuses West Berkshire Council of having no common sense for refusing her offer to pay 20p parking debt

A commuter has accused West Berkshire Council of having no common sense, after it refused to let her pay a 20p ‘debt.’
Deborah Clarkson, of East Grafton, who regularly commutes to work from Hungerford train station, accidentally paid the old fee of £2.20 for a day’s parking in the station car park, about two weeks after the charge had risen to £2.40 in April.

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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=10818



What do you think? Should she have been allowed to have paid the extra 20p or were WBC right to persecute her until she pays up or suffers a public hanging; in other words... should she have been more observant?
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Andy
post Aug 18 2009, 11:19 PM
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She didn't read any of the advance notices, new tariff signs or published literature, so it's nobody's fault but her own if she got things wrong.

If she'd not bothered paying any of the £2.40 would it still not seem harsh being fined £75?...No. That's why the line is there and high fine amounts in place to deter non and under paying parkers. That line is set and it's no one else's fault bar the punter if they cross it.

Lesson will no doubt have been learnt and she'll no doubt read tariffs and rules more carefully in the future.


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post Aug 18 2009, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 12:19 AM) *
She didn't read any of the advance notices, new tariff signs or published literature, so it's nobody's fault but her own if she got things wrong.

I don't think she is denying fault.

QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 12:19 AM) *
If she'd not bothered paying any of the £2.40 would it still not seem harsh being fined £75?...No.

But she did pay £2.40, so it is besides the point.

QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 12:19 AM) *
That's why the line is there and high fine amounts in place to deter non and under paying parkers. That line is set and it's no one else's fault bar the punter if they cross it. Lesson will no doubt have been learnt and she'll no doubt read tariffs and rules more carefully in the future.

The fine is savagely disproportionate to the offence. I once was caught doing 42 in a 30 and didn't get fined that much. A few years ago I forgot to by a ticket and didn't get fined that sort of amount.

Pay and display is crap; at least pay on exit, as places like the Kennet Shopping have got, avoids this sort of thing, except if you lose your ticket of course! A friend of mine lost his ticket and got charged the full day, despite it being early afternoon.
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post Aug 19 2009, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 19 2009, 12:28 AM) *
The fine is savagely disproportionate to the offence. I once was caught doing 42 in a 30 and didn't get fined that much. A few years ago I forgot to by a ticket and didn't get fined that sort of amount.
At least it should please those that say society should get tough on crime. wink.gif
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- GMR   Council refuses to accept 20p debt.   Aug 18 2009, 07:48 PM
- - Jamoza   I think they should have aloud her to pay the 20p....   Aug 18 2009, 07:57 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Jamoza @ Aug 18 2009, 08:57 PM) I ...   Aug 18 2009, 08:10 PM
|- - Sarah   QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 18 2009, 09:10 PM) It ha...   Aug 18 2009, 08:25 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Sarah @ Aug 18 2009, 09:25 PM) Tha...   Aug 18 2009, 08:46 PM
|- - Sarah   QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 18 2009, 09:46 PM) Wheth...   Aug 18 2009, 08:57 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Sarah @ Aug 18 2009, 09:57 PM) Rea...   Aug 18 2009, 09:01 PM
- - spartacus   Anyone who gets no joy from their Council when the...   Aug 18 2009, 08:30 PM
- - On the edge   Wonder if anyone at WBC has ever seen the Merchant...   Aug 18 2009, 08:49 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 18 2009, 09:49 P...   Aug 18 2009, 09:00 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 18 2009, 10:00 PM) Now y...   Aug 18 2009, 09:14 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 18 2009, 10:14 P...   Aug 18 2009, 09:17 PM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 18 2009, 10:14 P...   Aug 18 2009, 09:24 PM
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- - Darren   Back to the original topic... The expression ...   Aug 18 2009, 10:30 PM
|- - Iommi   QUOTE (Darren @ Aug 18 2009, 11:30 PM) Al...   Aug 18 2009, 10:57 PM
- - Darren   As per the quoted items, the discount still applie...   Aug 18 2009, 11:04 PM
|- - Andy   QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 19 2009, 12:28 AM) But...   Aug 18 2009, 11:47 PM
||- - Iommi   QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 12:47 AM) No r...   Aug 18 2009, 11:51 PM
||- - Andy   QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 19 2009, 12:51 AM) Wel...   Aug 18 2009, 11:59 PM
||- - Iommi   QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 12:59 AM) They...   Aug 19 2009, 12:04 AM
|||- - Andy   QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 19 2009, 01:04 AM) My ...   Aug 19 2009, 12:45 AM
||- - Sarah   QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 12:59 AM) They...   Aug 19 2009, 08:36 AM
|- - Berkshirelad   QUOTE (user23 @ Aug 19 2009, 08:43 AM) At...   Aug 19 2009, 07:46 AM
|- - Bloggo   QUOTE (user23 @ Aug 19 2009, 08:43 AM) At...   Aug 19 2009, 07:52 AM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Bloggo @ Aug 19 2009, 08:52 AM) Th...   Aug 19 2009, 11:55 AM
- - Biker1   So where do we draw the line? We all make mistake...   Aug 19 2009, 08:40 AM
|- - Chesapeake   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 19 2009, 09:40 AM) So...   Aug 19 2009, 09:00 AM
|- - Bloggo   QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Aug 19 2009, 10:00 AM...   Aug 19 2009, 09:07 AM
- - Bill1   QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 18 2009, 09:49 P...   Aug 19 2009, 09:17 AM
- - Bill1   QUOTE (GMR @ Aug 18 2009, 10:00 PM) Now y...   Aug 19 2009, 09:18 AM
- - Bill1   QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 18 2009, 10:14 P...   Aug 19 2009, 09:20 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Bill1 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:20 AM) Can...   Aug 19 2009, 07:15 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 19 2009, 08:15 P...   Aug 19 2009, 07:21 PM
- - Branston Pickle   It's possible the council are holding out for ...   Aug 19 2009, 11:00 AM
- - Berkshirelad   The Council are hanging out for £75 because: 1) t...   Aug 19 2009, 11:39 AM
|- - Chesapeake   QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Aug 19 2009, 12:39 ...   Aug 19 2009, 11:58 AM
|- - Chesapeake   QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Aug 19 2009, 12:58 PM...   Aug 19 2009, 12:07 PM
- - Darren   Again, from WBC website. The penalty for not payi...   Aug 19 2009, 12:01 PM
|- - Darren   For the THIRD time, the penalty charge is £50, not...   Aug 19 2009, 07:49 PM
|- - Andy   QUOTE (Darren @ Aug 19 2009, 08:49 PM) Fo...   Aug 19 2009, 08:11 PM
- - Chesapeake   You are of course entering into a contract when yo...   Aug 19 2009, 12:12 PM
|- - Berkshirelad   QUOTE (Chesapeake @ Aug 19 2009, 01:12 PM...   Aug 19 2009, 02:28 PM
|- - Chesapeake   [quote name='Berkshirelad' date='Aug 1...   Aug 19 2009, 03:05 PM
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|- - Chesapeake   QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Aug 19 2009, 03:28 ...   Aug 19 2009, 03:07 PM
- - TallDarkAndHandsome   I have no problem with the fine. Its just she was ...   Aug 19 2009, 12:14 PM
|- - Bloggo   QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 19 2009, 01...   Aug 19 2009, 02:01 PM
|- - Andy   QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 19 2009, 01...   Aug 19 2009, 02:35 PM
|- - TallDarkAndHandsome   QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 03:35 PM) That...   Aug 19 2009, 03:33 PM
|- - Andy   QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 19 2009, 04...   Aug 19 2009, 04:14 PM
||- - TallDarkAndHandsome   QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 19 2009, 05:14 PM) How ...   Aug 19 2009, 04:17 PM
||- - Newbury Expat   Just a comment on the suggestion that by not finin...   Aug 19 2009, 05:19 PM
|- - Viking-Ted   QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 19 2009, 04...   Aug 20 2009, 03:02 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Viking-Ted @ Aug 20 2009, 04...   Aug 20 2009, 06:48 PM
- - Iommi   This is getting all rather anal. This person alle...   Aug 19 2009, 03:42 PM
|- - Bloggo   QUOTE (Iommi @ Aug 19 2009, 04:42 PM) Thi...   Aug 19 2009, 03:48 PM
- - Strafin   It is over the top, there's no question about ...   Aug 19 2009, 05:57 PM
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