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Calls to reduce the A34 to a 50mph limit, Yet more namby pamby nonsense |
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Jan 23 2012, 11:59 AM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=18949Basically, Brightwalton resident and Green party activist Adrian Hollister has said “enough is enough.” and wants the A34 between Oxfordshire boarder and the M4 to be a 50mph limit. Apparently his year of living in West Ilsey was "living ****" (aww, bless him would he like a lollypop?) According to this clearly very entertaining fellow he has no idea how he would get out of his driveway and worries about his children bicycling in town. Adrian suggests average speed cameras (he fails to mention the large install and upkeep cost, plus paying for fines to be processed, that's not very green is it, plus the cameras are yellow), he adds: QUOTE “By doing so, I reckon 99 per cent of all the accidents on that road will go away, the traffic will flow more timely and the Downlands will be spared the anti-social driving of the panicked drivers searching for a diversion.” Since when has a member of the green party been able to give advice on what to do with the roads without having a conflict of interests? Oh no a few cars might have scratched their bumpers from time to time but at the end of the day changing the speed limit will not reduce crashes, it will just result in angrier drivers. Like when you're driving down the motorway and a lorry overtakes someone doing 52mph, causing the whole carridgeway to get tailbacked...inevitable they will be driving a Daewoo. Brightwalton is a 6.8mile drive from the A34 and a 2.6 mile drive from the A338. The B4494 is closer but it's also quieter. Well Adrian, I sincerely hope your children don't fall off their bicycles. And frankly assuming you live in the centre of Brightwalton, if you are letting your children cycle out far enough to get near to these major roads then I suggest you fit them with GPS tracking devices were you can not only monitor their speed and also keep an eye on their location so you can call upon your good friend the Honey Badger to rescue them. But if they did I doubt it would be because of someone doing 70mph on the A34. *real reason for edit; being awesome*
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Jan 24 2012, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) The obvious solution is a man with a red flag walking in front of everyones vehicle ! simple ! In fact lets all forget 100 years of progress and go back to the good old days altogether. Everyone gets a horse and cart, fitted with methane filters to please the greens, Everyone gets a job on the land and Adrian (look at me) Hollister can get his kids to sweep my chimneys !
All in the name of progress (of course). Its fools like this who got the incandescant lightbulbs banned. Beware idiots with agendas. Quite agree - the 'deep green' lobby damage their cause with the hair shirt approach. Just as much as 'militant cyclists' put the rest of us off with their anti social antics. Ironically, there are some solutions, being worked out right now, which will deliver us a sustainable future, which is comfortable (and for XJ) fun. For instance, we really ought to be able to deliver very fast personal transport; which is both safe and sustainable. Yes, we do have the technology, albeit at an immature stage right now.
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Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM
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What the Green Party don't seem to realise is that, yes while we probably are contributing to earths warming, it's far more dependant on the pre-existing cycles which the earth has naturally (hotter, more levels of "greenhouse gases" and cooler, with lower levels) - anyway, the problem is green people always try to do things for the "greater good" which if you have watched Hot Fuzz you would know is a load of poop. Stop being interfering, if you have issues then fine, raise them - debate, and apply reason to your arguments, excellent - but don't be quite so ridiculous. 50mph...lol. For reference America has a mostly 50-60mph highway limit and they have LOADS more accidents per car than the UK. QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 24 2012, 01:11 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) Quite agree - the 'deep green' lobby damage their cause with the hair shirt approach. Yup I'm with you and Penelope here. We should get a Pizza delivered and share it. If we ordered it from Dominoes in Newbury and it travelled at 70mph it would get to our chosen eating place much more quickly and be warmer and more delicious QUOTE Yes, we do have the technology, albeit at an immature stage right now. Story of so many things!!! Technology and evolution is about progressing forward. It's why the electric (battery) car is not going to work, but why the Hydrogen powered car will. Because it gives us the same, 5 minute fill up, 300+ mile range as most sort of cars, and can easily replace explosive or combustible fuels by using exisiting Infrastructure, and not cause grievance to peoples pre-existant way of live. After all, who wants an, at best, 150 mile range with a 18 hour recharge time.... Humans like routine and if you change that routine everything gets messed up, and people's quality of life goes down. If you get up every morning at 7:30, shower, breakfast, grab keys and wallet, leave for work, and then one day you wake up at 8am...then your routine is ruined and you'd forget something or have to skip shower or breakfast. You could always eat breakfast in the shower. It's an option?? QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 24 2012, 12:40 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) A stroke in this analogy would be a RTA. Equally, the more efficient the heart the slower it beats. Quite the doctor you are, eh Andy? There becomes a natural flow in blood (cars) which you force it to slower than it wants to be can cause bad things to happen. Say the natural flow is around 65-70beats per minute (or mph actually hah) and you try to force it to 50....well let's just say hope you have BUPA
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QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) What the Green Party don't seem to realise is that... btw... always interesting to see how the people from other political parties in West Berks (who are on this forum) decline to promote themselves on these issues. Too afraid to tackle tackle emotive topics and scared to talk to people and find out their real opinions? I am always happy here to take the debate, I am prepared to spend time understanding the issue and I am always willing to evaluate my position if I've got it wrong.
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xjay1337 Calls to reduce the A34 to a 50mph limit Jan 23 2012, 11:59 AM Adrian Hollister QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 11:59 AM) ... Jan 23 2012, 02:34 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) xjay1337 I'm about as old as my shoe size actually.
... Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) HJD QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM) ... Jan 23 2012, 05:14 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Rusty Bullet QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM) ... Jan 23 2012, 06:53 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Strafin QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 06:53... Jan 23 2012, 07:08 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 07:53... Jan 23 2012, 11:38 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 23 2012, 11:38 PM) If... Jan 24 2012, 12:09 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 24 2012, 02:09 AM)... Jan 24 2012, 05:07 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Darren QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 06:53... Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) xjay1337 QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM) I... Jan 24 2012, 09:34 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM) I... Jan 24 2012, 11:34 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 10:52 AM) Sp... Jan 24 2012, 05:14 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 24 2012, 05:14 PM) St... Jan 24 2012, 06:58 PM Downlander Ahh, give the kid a break. I've got shoes tha... Jan 23 2012, 02:51 PM Strafin I see where Adrian is coming from, I just don... Jan 23 2012, 03:50 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) JeffG QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 23 2012, 03:50 PM) R... Jan 23 2012, 04:03 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Strafin QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 23 2012, 04:03 PM) I t... Jan 23 2012, 04:21 PM Downlander I'd like to see them extend the northbound sli... Jan 23 2012, 04:10 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) xjay1337 QUOTE (Downlander @ Jan 23 2012, 04:10 PM... Jan 23 2012, 04:39 PM Adrian Hollister Speeding is such an emotive issue. So many people... Jan 23 2012, 05:53 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 05... Jan 23 2012, 05:59 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 23 2012, 05:59 PM)... Jan 23 2012, 06:18 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 06... Jan 23 2012, 06:42 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) xjay1337 QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 05... Jan 23 2012, 06:08 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:08 PM) ... Jan 23 2012, 06:24 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) xjay1337 QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 06... Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM) ... Jan 23 2012, 06:39 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) blackdog QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM) ... Jan 23 2012, 07:03 PM blackdog Every time I go up the A34 the traffic is rarely g... Jan 23 2012, 05:56 PM xjay1337 I am not 109. Shoes would be very expensive as wel... Jan 23 2012, 07:00 PM gel Wonder if the A34 speed limit will rise in line wi... Jan 23 2012, 07:13 PM spartacus QUOTE (gel @ Jan 23 2012, 07:13 PM) Oxon ... Jan 23 2012, 07:29 PM user23 QUOTE I reckon 99 per cent of all the accidents on... Jan 23 2012, 07:46 PM Penelope ROFL ? seriously ? how old are you Adrian, like 16... Jan 23 2012, 08:00 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) dannyboy QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 23 2012, 08:00 PM) ... Jan 23 2012, 10:49 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) xjay1337 QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 23 2012, 10:49 PM) ... Jan 23 2012, 11:04 PM Penelope So Xjay, stalking me are you ?? Still nice action... Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) xjay1337 QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM) ... Jan 24 2012, 09:44 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM) ... Jan 24 2012, 11:30 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) xjay1337 QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 11... Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM) ... Jan 24 2012, 11:54 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM) ... Jan 24 2012, 12:40 PM xjay1337 Throughput is speed, or bandwidth rather. So you... Jan 24 2012, 12:22 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM) ... Jan 24 2012, 02:07 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) xjay1337 There is a speed limit. It's 70.
So Blake it... Jan 24 2012, 02:40 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ... Jan 24 2012, 01:19 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) user23 QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 01... Jan 24 2012, 07:09 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ... Jan 24 2012, 02:02 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Weavers Walk QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ... Jan 24 2012, 06:56 PM Blake I am wholeheartedly in favor of a speed limit on t... Jan 24 2012, 02:31 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Strafin QUOTE (Blake @ Jan 24 2012, 02:31 PM) I a... Jan 24 2012, 05:29 PM dannyboy Time for a variable speed limit. Works on other bu... Jan 24 2012, 04:19 PM Penelope The answer as I'm sure any thinking person (so... Jan 24 2012, 05:02 PM Penelope Man with a red flag, anyway as a biker you should ... Jan 24 2012, 05:20 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 07:20 PM) ... Jan 24 2012, 05:26 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) oldharry QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 05:20 PM) ... Jan 24 2012, 06:29 PM Penelope What part ? Jan 24 2012, 06:51 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 08:51 PM) ... Jan 25 2012, 09:36 AM Turin Machine Err of course he does, he also has documentation t... Jan 24 2012, 07:25 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Rusty Bullet QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 24 2012, 07:25... Jan 24 2012, 07:33 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) user23 QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 24 2012, 07:25... Jan 24 2012, 07:42 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 24 2012, 07:42 PM) If... Jan 24 2012, 08:37 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) user23 QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 08... Jan 24 2012, 09:44 PM Strafin I don't want a reduction in speed limit there,... Jan 24 2012, 08:59 PM NWNREADER Sadly, the bare statistics are not that useful in ... Jan 24 2012, 09:05 PM Downlander QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 24 2012, 06:58 PM)... Jan 24 2012, 10:21 PM NWNREADER It is not the speed that kills, just the mode of c... Jan 24 2012, 10:36 PM Turin Machine Very pretty speach adrian, except of course you... Jan 24 2012, 10:42 PM Penelope Adrian, how are you getting on with that Land Rove... Jan 24 2012, 11:18 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 11:18 PM) ... Jan 24 2012, 11:34 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) xjay1337 QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 11... Jan 25 2012, 01:47 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 25 2012, 01:47 AM) ... Jan 25 2012, 08:10 AM NWNREADER Oh dear - personal website................. Jan 25 2012, 12:21 AM xjay1337 Redesigning sliproad around that area, consider fo... Jan 25 2012, 08:33 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Adrian Hollister QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 25 2012, 08:33 AM) ... Jan 25 2012, 09:52 AM xjay1337 Variable limits work when there is an actual probl... Jan 25 2012, 10:20 AM dannyboy Variable limits work when there is an actual probl... Jan 25 2012, 12:54 PM Turin Machine IF we are talking vehicles, I have a 7 year old di... Jan 25 2012, 02:16 PM Biker1 I see this stretch of road is now branded as ... Feb 2 2012, 09:14 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Ron QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 2 2012, 09:14 AM) I s... Feb 2 2012, 09:27 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) JeffG QUOTE (Ron @ Feb 2 2012, 09:27 AM) I trav... Feb 2 2012, 09:55 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 2 2012, 11:55 AM) Oxfo... Feb 2 2012, 10:11 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) xjay1337 QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 2 2012, 09:14 AM) I s... Feb 2 2012, 09:53 AM xjay1337 Via Wantage is not a dual carridgeway though is it... Feb 2 2012, 10:58 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Biker1 QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Feb 2 2012, 12:58 PM) V... Feb 2 2012, 12:17 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) xjay1337 I made a post and it is gone sorry if it was offen... Feb 3 2012, 10:41 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) JeffG QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Feb 3 2012, 10:41 AM) I... Feb 3 2012, 11:12 AM Turin Machine it doesn't matter if its the most dangerous rd... Feb 2 2012, 05:12 PM NWNREADER What are the causations of all the crashes referre... Feb 2 2012, 09:34 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 2 2012, 09:34 PM) ... Feb 2 2012, 09:52 PM NWNREADER Or even below 50mph.... Or only involving LGVs (w... Feb 2 2012, 10:17 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 2 2012, 10:17 PM) ... Feb 2 2012, 10:41 PM JeffG I shan't be the one to report it myself, but m... Feb 3 2012, 09:56 AM admin Two posts on this thread have been removed for bre... Feb 3 2012, 10:33 AM xjay1337 No problem
Maybe admins could have changed the op... Feb 3 2012, 11:30 AM
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