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post Jan 23 2012, 11:59 AM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=18949

Basically, Brightwalton resident and Green party activist Adrian Hollister has said “enough is enough.” and wants the A34 between Oxfordshire boarder and the M4 to be a 50mph limit.

Apparently his year of living in West Ilsey was "living ****" (aww, bless him would he like a lollypop?)
According to this clearly very entertaining fellow he has no idea how he would get out of his driveway and worries about his children bicycling in town.

Adrian suggests average speed cameras (he fails to mention the large install and upkeep cost, plus paying for fines to be processed, that's not very green is it, plus the cameras are yellow), he adds:

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“By doing so, I reckon 99 per cent of all the accidents on that road will go away, the traffic will flow more timely and the Downlands will be spared the anti-social driving of the panicked drivers searching for a diversion.”


Since when has a member of the green party been able to give advice on what to do with the roads without having a conflict of interests?

Oh no a few cars might have scratched their bumpers from time to time but at the end of the day changing the speed limit will not reduce crashes, it will just result in angrier drivers. Like when you're driving down the motorway and a lorry overtakes someone doing 52mph, causing the whole carridgeway to get tailbacked...inevitable they will be driving a Daewoo.

Brightwalton is a 6.8mile drive from the A34 and a 2.6 mile drive from the A338. The B4494 is closer but it's also quieter.
Well Adrian, I sincerely hope your children don't fall off their bicycles. And frankly assuming you live in the centre of Brightwalton, if you are letting your children cycle out far enough to get near to these major roads then I suggest you fit them with GPS tracking devices were you can not only monitor their speed and also keep an eye on their location so you can call upon your good friend the Honey Badger to rescue them. But if they did I doubt it would be because of someone doing 70mph on the A34.

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post Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM
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The obvious solution is a man with a red flag walking in front of everyones vehicle ! simple ! In fact lets all forget 100 years of progress and go back to the good old days altogether. Everyone gets a horse and cart, fitted with methane filters to please the greens, Everyone gets a job on the land and Adrian (look at me) Hollister can get his kids to sweep my chimneys !

All in the name of progress (of course). Its fools like this who got the incandescant lightbulbs banned. Beware idiots with agendas.
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post Jan 24 2012, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) *
The obvious solution is a man with a red flag walking in front of everyones vehicle ! simple ! In fact lets all forget 100 years of progress and go back to the good old days altogether. Everyone gets a horse and cart, fitted with methane filters to please the greens, Everyone gets a job on the land and Adrian (look at me) Hollister can get his kids to sweep my chimneys !

All in the name of progress (of course). Its fools like this who got the incandescant lightbulbs banned. Beware idiots with agendas.



Quite agree - the 'deep green' lobby damage their cause with the hair shirt approach. Just as much as 'militant cyclists' put the rest of us off with their anti social antics. Ironically, there are some solutions, being worked out right now, which will deliver us a sustainable future, which is comfortable (and for XJ) fun. For instance, we really ought to be able to deliver very fast personal transport; which is both safe and sustainable. Yes, we do have the technology, albeit at an immature stage right now.


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post Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM
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What the Green Party don't seem to realise is that, yes while we probably are contributing to earths warming, it's far more dependant on the pre-existing cycles which the earth has naturally (hotter, more levels of "greenhouse gases" and cooler, with lower levels) - anyway, the problem is green people always try to do things for the "greater good" which if you have watched Hot Fuzz you would know is a load of poop. Stop being interfering, if you have issues then fine, raise them - debate, and apply reason to your arguments, excellent - but don't be quite so ridiculous. 50mph...lol. For reference America has a mostly 50-60mph highway limit and they have LOADS more accidents per car than the UK. tongue.gif

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Quite agree - the 'deep green' lobby damage their cause with the hair shirt approach.


Yup I'm with you and Penelope here. We should get a Pizza delivered and share it. If we ordered it from Dominoes in Newbury and it travelled at 70mph it would get to our chosen eating place much more quickly and be warmer and more delicious tongue.gif

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Yes, we do have the technology, albeit at an immature stage right now.


Story of so many things!!! Technology and evolution is about progressing forward. It's why the electric (battery) car is not going to work, but why the Hydrogen powered car will. Because it gives us the same, 5 minute fill up, 300+ mile range as most sort of cars, and can easily replace explosive or combustible fuels by using exisiting Infrastructure, and not cause grievance to peoples pre-existant way of live. After all, who wants an, at best, 150 mile range with a 18 hour recharge time....

Humans like routine and if you change that routine everything gets messed up, and people's quality of life goes down. If you get up every morning at 7:30, shower, breakfast, grab keys and wallet, leave for work, and then one day you wake up at 8am...then your routine is ruined and you'd forget something or have to skip shower or breakfast. You could always eat breakfast in the shower. It's an option??

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A stroke in this analogy would be a RTA. Equally, the more efficient the heart the slower it beats.


Quite the doctor you are, eh Andy? laugh.gif
There becomes a natural flow in blood (cars) which you force it to slower than it wants to be can cause bad things to happen. Say the natural flow is around 65-70beats per minute (or mph actually hah) and you try to force it to 50....well let's just say hope you have BUPA


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- xjay1337   Calls to reduce the A34 to a 50mph limit   Jan 23 2012, 11:59 AM
- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 11:59 AM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 02:34 PM
|- - xjay1337   I'm about as old as my shoe size actually. ...   Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM
|- - HJD   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 05:14 PM
|- - Rusty Bullet   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 06:53 PM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 06:53...   Jan 23 2012, 07:08 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 07:53...   Jan 23 2012, 11:38 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 23 2012, 11:38 PM) If...   Jan 24 2012, 12:09 AM
||- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 24 2012, 02:09 AM)...   Jan 24 2012, 05:07 PM
|- - Darren   QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 06:53...   Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM) I...   Jan 24 2012, 09:34 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM) I...   Jan 24 2012, 11:34 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 10:52 AM) Sp...   Jan 24 2012, 05:14 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 24 2012, 05:14 PM) St...   Jan 24 2012, 06:58 PM
- - Downlander   Ahh, give the kid a break. I've got shoes tha...   Jan 23 2012, 02:51 PM
- - Strafin   I see where Adrian is coming from, I just don...   Jan 23 2012, 03:50 PM
|- - JeffG   QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 23 2012, 03:50 PM) R...   Jan 23 2012, 04:03 PM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 23 2012, 04:03 PM) I t...   Jan 23 2012, 04:21 PM
- - Downlander   I'd like to see them extend the northbound sli...   Jan 23 2012, 04:10 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Downlander @ Jan 23 2012, 04:10 PM...   Jan 23 2012, 04:39 PM
- - Adrian Hollister   Speeding is such an emotive issue. So many people...   Jan 23 2012, 05:53 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 05...   Jan 23 2012, 05:59 PM
||- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 23 2012, 05:59 PM)...   Jan 23 2012, 06:18 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 06...   Jan 23 2012, 06:42 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 05...   Jan 23 2012, 06:08 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:08 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 06:24 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 06...   Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 06:39 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 07:03 PM
- - blackdog   Every time I go up the A34 the traffic is rarely g...   Jan 23 2012, 05:56 PM
- - xjay1337   I am not 109. Shoes would be very expensive as wel...   Jan 23 2012, 07:00 PM
- - gel   Wonder if the A34 speed limit will rise in line wi...   Jan 23 2012, 07:13 PM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (gel @ Jan 23 2012, 07:13 PM) Oxon ...   Jan 23 2012, 07:29 PM
- - user23   QUOTE I reckon 99 per cent of all the accidents on...   Jan 23 2012, 07:46 PM
- - Penelope   ROFL ? seriously ? how old are you Adrian, like 16...   Jan 23 2012, 08:00 PM
|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 23 2012, 08:00 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 10:49 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 23 2012, 10:49 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 11:04 PM
- - Penelope   So Xjay, stalking me are you ?? Still nice action...   Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 09:44 AM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 11:30 AM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 11...   Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 11:54 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 12:40 PM
- - xjay1337   Throughput is speed, or bandwidth rather. So you...   Jan 24 2012, 12:22 PM
||- - xjay1337   What the Green Party don't seem to realise is ...   Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 02:07 PM
|||- - xjay1337   There is a speed limit. It's 70. So Blake it...   Jan 24 2012, 02:40 PM
||- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 08:44 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 01:19 PM
||- - user23   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 01...   Jan 24 2012, 07:09 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 02:02 PM
|- - Weavers Walk   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 06:56 PM
- - Blake   I am wholeheartedly in favor of a speed limit on t...   Jan 24 2012, 02:31 PM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (Blake @ Jan 24 2012, 02:31 PM) I a...   Jan 24 2012, 05:29 PM
- - dannyboy   Time for a variable speed limit. Works on other bu...   Jan 24 2012, 04:19 PM
- - Penelope   The answer as I'm sure any thinking person (so...   Jan 24 2012, 05:02 PM
- - Penelope   Man with a red flag, anyway as a biker you should ...   Jan 24 2012, 05:20 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 07:20 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 05:26 PM
|- - oldharry   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 05:20 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 06:29 PM
- - Penelope   What part ?   Jan 24 2012, 06:51 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 08:51 PM) ...   Jan 25 2012, 09:36 AM
- - Turin Machine   Err of course he does, he also has documentation t...   Jan 24 2012, 07:25 PM
|- - Rusty Bullet   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 24 2012, 07:25...   Jan 24 2012, 07:33 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 24 2012, 07:25...   Jan 24 2012, 07:42 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 24 2012, 07:42 PM) If...   Jan 24 2012, 08:37 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 08...   Jan 24 2012, 09:44 PM
- - Strafin   I don't want a reduction in speed limit there,...   Jan 24 2012, 08:59 PM
- - NWNREADER   Sadly, the bare statistics are not that useful in ...   Jan 24 2012, 09:05 PM
- - Downlander   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 24 2012, 06:58 PM)...   Jan 24 2012, 10:21 PM
- - NWNREADER   It is not the speed that kills, just the mode of c...   Jan 24 2012, 10:36 PM
- - Turin Machine   Very pretty speach adrian, except of course you...   Jan 24 2012, 10:42 PM
- - Penelope   Adrian, how are you getting on with that Land Rove...   Jan 24 2012, 11:18 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 11:18 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 11:34 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 11...   Jan 25 2012, 01:47 AM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 25 2012, 01:47 AM) ...   Jan 25 2012, 08:10 AM
- - NWNREADER   Oh dear - personal website.................   Jan 25 2012, 12:21 AM
- - xjay1337   Redesigning sliproad around that area, consider fo...   Jan 25 2012, 08:33 AM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 25 2012, 08:33 AM) ...   Jan 25 2012, 09:52 AM
- - xjay1337   Variable limits work when there is an actual probl...   Jan 25 2012, 10:20 AM
- - dannyboy   Variable limits work when there is an actual probl...   Jan 25 2012, 12:54 PM
- - Turin Machine   IF we are talking vehicles, I have a 7 year old di...   Jan 25 2012, 02:16 PM
- - Biker1   I see this stretch of road is now branded as ...   Feb 2 2012, 09:14 AM
|- - Ron   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 2 2012, 09:14 AM) I s...   Feb 2 2012, 09:27 AM
||- - JeffG   QUOTE (Ron @ Feb 2 2012, 09:27 AM) I trav...   Feb 2 2012, 09:55 AM
||- - Biker1   QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 2 2012, 11:55 AM) Oxfo...   Feb 2 2012, 10:11 AM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 2 2012, 09:14 AM) I s...   Feb 2 2012, 09:53 AM
- - xjay1337   Via Wantage is not a dual carridgeway though is it...   Feb 2 2012, 10:58 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Feb 2 2012, 12:58 PM) V...   Feb 2 2012, 12:17 PM
|- - xjay1337   I made a post and it is gone sorry if it was offen...   Feb 3 2012, 10:41 AM
|- - JeffG   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Feb 3 2012, 10:41 AM) I...   Feb 3 2012, 11:12 AM
- - Turin Machine   it doesn't matter if its the most dangerous rd...   Feb 2 2012, 05:12 PM
- - NWNREADER   What are the causations of all the crashes referre...   Feb 2 2012, 09:34 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 2 2012, 09:34 PM) ...   Feb 2 2012, 09:52 PM
- - NWNREADER   Or even below 50mph.... Or only involving LGVs (w...   Feb 2 2012, 10:17 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 2 2012, 10:17 PM) ...   Feb 2 2012, 10:41 PM
- - JeffG   I shan't be the one to report it myself, but m...   Feb 3 2012, 09:56 AM
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