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post Jan 23 2012, 11:59 AM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=18949

Basically, Brightwalton resident and Green party activist Adrian Hollister has said “enough is enough.” and wants the A34 between Oxfordshire boarder and the M4 to be a 50mph limit.

Apparently his year of living in West Ilsey was "living ****" (aww, bless him would he like a lollypop?)
According to this clearly very entertaining fellow he has no idea how he would get out of his driveway and worries about his children bicycling in town.

Adrian suggests average speed cameras (he fails to mention the large install and upkeep cost, plus paying for fines to be processed, that's not very green is it, plus the cameras are yellow), he adds:

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“By doing so, I reckon 99 per cent of all the accidents on that road will go away, the traffic will flow more timely and the Downlands will be spared the anti-social driving of the panicked drivers searching for a diversion.”


Since when has a member of the green party been able to give advice on what to do with the roads without having a conflict of interests?

Oh no a few cars might have scratched their bumpers from time to time but at the end of the day changing the speed limit will not reduce crashes, it will just result in angrier drivers. Like when you're driving down the motorway and a lorry overtakes someone doing 52mph, causing the whole carridgeway to get tailbacked...inevitable they will be driving a Daewoo.

Brightwalton is a 6.8mile drive from the A34 and a 2.6 mile drive from the A338. The B4494 is closer but it's also quieter.
Well Adrian, I sincerely hope your children don't fall off their bicycles. And frankly assuming you live in the centre of Brightwalton, if you are letting your children cycle out far enough to get near to these major roads then I suggest you fit them with GPS tracking devices were you can not only monitor their speed and also keep an eye on their location so you can call upon your good friend the Honey Badger to rescue them. But if they did I doubt it would be because of someone doing 70mph on the A34.

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Adrian Hollister
post Jan 23 2012, 05:53 PM
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Speeding is such an emotive issue. So many people take it for granted and don't consider breaking the speed limit a problem. Of course in true nimby style, most don't want speeding near their house, but near your house is just fine.

It would be interesting to know if speed is your priority? The 9 miles from the M4 to the Harwell junction equates to just three minutes journey time difference (70<50). What does it honestly gain you?

I've always had my family and the welfare of my friends, family and community as my priority.


As to my political beliefs - at least I stand up for what I believe in. I don't hide behind pseudonyms and I hold myself accountable for what I say. It's easy to knock it, it's more difficult to go public and be judged. btw... interesting to note how most political parties shy away from these issues as they stir up emotional issues. Best we've had recently is a bit of jingoism about raising the speed limit on some motorways. If the government wanted to make a real difference, they would consider a road toll for non-UK vehicles - bet there would be a lot less long haul lorries on our roads allowing you your 'freedom of expression'.


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post Jan 23 2012, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 05:53 PM) *
Speeding is such an emotive issue. So many people take it for granted and don't consider breaking the speed limit a problem. Of course in true nimby style, most don't want speeding near their house, but near your house is just fine.

It would be interesting to know if speed is your priority? The 9 miles from the M4 to the Harwell junction equates to just three minutes journey time difference (70<50). What does it honestly gain you?


Yes yes the whole "70 is only 3 minutes quicker than 50" - yes, technically yes but it feels so much quicker. If you only did things because of logical and boring reasons where would we be? I'm sure the fact that a teaspoon of your favourite table dressing would suffice for the given purpose but you put loads and loads in, 'cause you like it, right?

I don't think it's fine to speed near anyone's house, except that on the A34 there aren't any houses. Your choice to live within a 10 mile vicinity of said road doesn't mean you can complain. For example with the people who chose to move near to a race circuit. You KNEW there was a racetrack there, it's been there for hundreds of years before you moved (or in the case of the A34 maybe a few years) and yet instead of either accepting it and dealing with it, you "ignore" it and the complain about it later.

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I've always had my family and the welfare of my friends, family and community as my priority.


Excellent let's turn this into a party-political broadcast.


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a road toll for non-UK vehicles - bet there would be a lot less long haul lorries on our roads allowing you your 'freedom of expression'.


Make that for commercial vehicles only (not really fair on Pierce and Audrey from France in their Renault Clio would it?) and I think that would be a good idea.

QUOTE (HJD @ Jan 23 2012, 05:14 PM) *
C'mon xjay i thought you had a sense of adventure. Just imagine if Adrian Hollister got his wish the fun you could have overtaking & being undertook in return by those safety conscious juggernaut drivers laugh.gif You could be just like them & cause tailbacks for bleeding miles, oh that happens already doesn't it angry.gif Maybe you could also join those other cretins that stay over in the overtaking lane leaving the inside lane empty travelling inches behind each other so that anyone on the inside lane can't move out , i mean what would it matter. I suppose someone will propose a blanket 50 limit between Great Shefford & Wantage next ! Oh bugger there already is one now isn't there. sad.gif


That sounds like a rounded days entertainment to be honest. smile.gif
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- xjay1337   Calls to reduce the A34 to a 50mph limit   Jan 23 2012, 11:59 AM
- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 11:59 AM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 02:34 PM
|- - xjay1337   I'm about as old as my shoe size actually. ...   Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM
|- - HJD   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 05:14 PM
|- - Rusty Bullet   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 04:08 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 06:53 PM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 06:53...   Jan 23 2012, 07:08 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 07:53...   Jan 23 2012, 11:38 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 23 2012, 11:38 PM) If...   Jan 24 2012, 12:09 AM
||- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 24 2012, 02:09 AM)...   Jan 24 2012, 05:07 PM
|- - Darren   QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Jan 23 2012, 06:53...   Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM) I...   Jan 24 2012, 09:34 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 08:52 AM) I...   Jan 24 2012, 11:34 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Darren @ Jan 24 2012, 10:52 AM) Sp...   Jan 24 2012, 05:14 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Jan 24 2012, 05:14 PM) St...   Jan 24 2012, 06:58 PM
- - Downlander   Ahh, give the kid a break. I've got shoes tha...   Jan 23 2012, 02:51 PM
- - Strafin   I see where Adrian is coming from, I just don...   Jan 23 2012, 03:50 PM
|- - JeffG   QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 23 2012, 03:50 PM) R...   Jan 23 2012, 04:03 PM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (JeffG @ Jan 23 2012, 04:03 PM) I t...   Jan 23 2012, 04:21 PM
- - Downlander   I'd like to see them extend the northbound sli...   Jan 23 2012, 04:10 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Downlander @ Jan 23 2012, 04:10 PM...   Jan 23 2012, 04:39 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 05...   Jan 23 2012, 05:59 PM
||- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 23 2012, 05:59 PM)...   Jan 23 2012, 06:18 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 06...   Jan 23 2012, 06:42 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 05...   Jan 23 2012, 06:08 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:08 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 06:24 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 23 2012, 06...   Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 06:39 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 23 2012, 06:35 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 07:03 PM
- - blackdog   Every time I go up the A34 the traffic is rarely g...   Jan 23 2012, 05:56 PM
- - xjay1337   I am not 109. Shoes would be very expensive as wel...   Jan 23 2012, 07:00 PM
- - gel   Wonder if the A34 speed limit will rise in line wi...   Jan 23 2012, 07:13 PM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (gel @ Jan 23 2012, 07:13 PM) Oxon ...   Jan 23 2012, 07:29 PM
- - user23   QUOTE I reckon 99 per cent of all the accidents on...   Jan 23 2012, 07:46 PM
- - Penelope   ROFL ? seriously ? how old are you Adrian, like 16...   Jan 23 2012, 08:00 PM
|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 23 2012, 08:00 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 10:49 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (dannyboy @ Jan 23 2012, 10:49 PM) ...   Jan 23 2012, 11:04 PM
- - Penelope   So Xjay, stalking me are you ?? Still nice action...   Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 09:44 AM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 09:43 AM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 11:30 AM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 11...   Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 11:54 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 11:42 AM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 12:40 PM
- - xjay1337   Throughput is speed, or bandwidth rather. So you...   Jan 24 2012, 12:22 PM
- - Penelope   The obvious solution is a man with a red flag walk...   Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 01:11 PM
||- - xjay1337   What the Green Party don't seem to realise is ...   Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 02:07 PM
|||- - xjay1337   There is a speed limit. It's 70. So Blake it...   Jan 24 2012, 02:40 PM
||- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 24 2012, 02:00 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 08:44 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 01:19 PM
||- - user23   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 01...   Jan 24 2012, 07:09 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 02:02 PM
|- - Weavers Walk   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 12:56 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 06:56 PM
- - Blake   I am wholeheartedly in favor of a speed limit on t...   Jan 24 2012, 02:31 PM
|- - Strafin   QUOTE (Blake @ Jan 24 2012, 02:31 PM) I a...   Jan 24 2012, 05:29 PM
- - dannyboy   Time for a variable speed limit. Works on other bu...   Jan 24 2012, 04:19 PM
- - Penelope   The answer as I'm sure any thinking person (so...   Jan 24 2012, 05:02 PM
- - Penelope   Man with a red flag, anyway as a biker you should ...   Jan 24 2012, 05:20 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 07:20 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 05:26 PM
|- - oldharry   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 05:20 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 06:29 PM
- - Penelope   What part ?   Jan 24 2012, 06:51 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 08:51 PM) ...   Jan 25 2012, 09:36 AM
- - Turin Machine   Err of course he does, he also has documentation t...   Jan 24 2012, 07:25 PM
|- - Rusty Bullet   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 24 2012, 07:25...   Jan 24 2012, 07:33 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 24 2012, 07:25...   Jan 24 2012, 07:42 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (user23 @ Jan 24 2012, 07:42 PM) If...   Jan 24 2012, 08:37 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 08...   Jan 24 2012, 09:44 PM
- - Strafin   I don't want a reduction in speed limit there,...   Jan 24 2012, 08:59 PM
- - NWNREADER   Sadly, the bare statistics are not that useful in ...   Jan 24 2012, 09:05 PM
- - Downlander   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 24 2012, 06:58 PM)...   Jan 24 2012, 10:21 PM
- - NWNREADER   It is not the speed that kills, just the mode of c...   Jan 24 2012, 10:36 PM
- - Turin Machine   Very pretty speach adrian, except of course you...   Jan 24 2012, 10:42 PM
- - Penelope   Adrian, how are you getting on with that Land Rove...   Jan 24 2012, 11:18 PM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (Penelope @ Jan 24 2012, 11:18 PM) ...   Jan 24 2012, 11:34 PM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Adrian Hollister @ Jan 24 2012, 11...   Jan 25 2012, 01:47 AM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 25 2012, 01:47 AM) ...   Jan 25 2012, 08:10 AM
- - NWNREADER   Oh dear - personal website.................   Jan 25 2012, 12:21 AM
- - xjay1337   Redesigning sliproad around that area, consider fo...   Jan 25 2012, 08:33 AM
|- - Adrian Hollister   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Jan 25 2012, 08:33 AM) ...   Jan 25 2012, 09:52 AM
- - xjay1337   Variable limits work when there is an actual probl...   Jan 25 2012, 10:20 AM
- - dannyboy   Variable limits work when there is an actual probl...   Jan 25 2012, 12:54 PM
- - Turin Machine   IF we are talking vehicles, I have a 7 year old di...   Jan 25 2012, 02:16 PM
- - Biker1   I see this stretch of road is now branded as ...   Feb 2 2012, 09:14 AM
|- - Ron   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 2 2012, 09:14 AM) I s...   Feb 2 2012, 09:27 AM
||- - JeffG   QUOTE (Ron @ Feb 2 2012, 09:27 AM) I trav...   Feb 2 2012, 09:55 AM
||- - Biker1   QUOTE (JeffG @ Feb 2 2012, 11:55 AM) Oxfo...   Feb 2 2012, 10:11 AM
|- - xjay1337   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Feb 2 2012, 09:14 AM) I s...   Feb 2 2012, 09:53 AM
- - xjay1337   Via Wantage is not a dual carridgeway though is it...   Feb 2 2012, 10:58 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Feb 2 2012, 12:58 PM) V...   Feb 2 2012, 12:17 PM
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|- - JeffG   QUOTE (xjay1337 @ Feb 3 2012, 10:41 AM) I...   Feb 3 2012, 11:12 AM
- - Turin Machine   it doesn't matter if its the most dangerous rd...   Feb 2 2012, 05:12 PM
- - NWNREADER   What are the causations of all the crashes referre...   Feb 2 2012, 09:34 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 2 2012, 09:34 PM) ...   Feb 2 2012, 09:52 PM
- - NWNREADER   Or even below 50mph.... Or only involving LGVs (w...   Feb 2 2012, 10:17 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Feb 2 2012, 10:17 PM) ...   Feb 2 2012, 10:41 PM
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