Strike Action Options

[Berkshirelad]

I note in NWN that the proposed public sector strike may, among other things, cause bins not to be emptied.

Why? Waste collection is contracted out to a private company, who regardless of striking workers are contracted to to undertake bin emptying. If this means Veolia management out on the lorries, then so be it.

[Guest_xjay1337_*]

The terms laid out to them are clear and written in their employment contract. These are teachers, council workers, people who AS PART OF THEIR JOB, serve the public. By striking they are refusing to fufil their duties thus should be eligible for disciplinary procedures. I mean what the heck, teachers get 8-10 weeks holiday, most rock up at 8:30 and go home at 4, are paid £25k or so a year (so more than the average salary, I know some teachers on £30k+ after a couple of years) for saying the same thing 4 or 5 times a day to different groups of pepole at different levels based on their age.. They learn one thing and then spend all day sharing their knowledge...it's not a "hard" job. Childrens education is more important than ever and they are more worried about their precious money and closing schools because they're selfish.

Now I get a day short of 3 weeks holiday, nowhere near £25k and do 9-5:30!! And I'm more qualified than my IT teacher was at school...so..go figure. So many people in the private sector are paid less than those in public and yet we don't moan and complain and strike..

Now I'm not saying they are not allowed to strike. They are, but pick suitable times to do it. Everyone is having to cut back and frankly they have it the best out of anyone; ample holiday, good pay, etc.

I'm saying that their selfishness is second to none at this point. We in the private sector partially pay their wages with our NI contributions and taxes. Yes, they likely pay taxes too and thus contribute to each others wages but there are more in the private sector paying high tax than there are in the public..

[blackdog]

The terms laid out to them are clear and written in their employment contract. These are teachers, council workers, people who AS PART OF THEIR JOB, serve the public.

So shopworkers, train drivers, etc. etc who work in the private sector and serve the public should have their right to strike removed?

By striking they are refusing to fufil their duties thus should be eligible for disciplinary procedures.

Striking is a legal way of temporarily refusing to do your job - and is quite rightly exempt from disciplinary proceedures.

I mean what the heck, teachers get 8-10 weeks holiday, most rock up at 8:30 and go home at 4, are paid £25k or so a year (so more than the average salary, I know some teachers on £30k+ after a couple of years) for saying the same thing 4 or 5 times a day to different groups of pepole at different levels based on their age.. They learn one thing and then spend all day sharing their knowledge...it's not a "hard" job. Childrens education is more important than ever and they are more worried about their precious money and closing schools because they're selfish.

Now I get a day short of 3 weeks holiday, nowhere near £25k and do 9-5:30!! And I'm more qualified than my IT teacher was at school...so..go figure. So many people in the private sector are paid less than those in public and yet we don't moan and complain and strike..

So why on earth don't you get a job as a teacher?

Now I'm not saying they are not allowed to strike. They are, but pick suitable times to do it.

Surely the best time to strike is when it has an effect? I suspect that, if this dispute runs on the striking will become a lot more selective - bring out the Inland Revenue or the Cabinet Office, not the teachers or binmen - minimal impact on Joe Public, maximum impact on the Government. A day like today is about demonstrating the breadth of support the unions have.

Everyone is having to cut back and frankly they have it the best out of anyone; ample holiday, good pay, etc.

I'm saying that their selfishness is second to none at this point. We in the private sector partially pay their wages with our NI contributions and taxes. Yes, they likely pay taxes too and thus contribute to each others wages but there are more in the private sector paying high tax than there are in the public..

Ever thought why there are more in the private sector paying high tax? Hint - it's because they get paid higher wages.

[Vodabury]

Ever thought why there are more in the private sector paying high tax? Hint - it's because they get paid higher wages.

You are out of date with this comment. Why do some people think all those in the private sector are on higher salaries? - most are not and many private sector workers are on minimum wage or thereabouts.

[blackdog]

You are out of date with this comment. Why do some people think all those in the private sector are on higher salaries? - most are not and many private sector workers are on minimum wage or thereabouts.

A great many public sector workers are on low wages too.

Not all private sector workers are on higher wages, not all public servants are on high wages - but people paying the highest rate of tax (the subject of my comment) are far more likely to be in the private sector than the public.