Stabbed in the back Options

[Turin Machine]

What part of care and compassion for the sick, elderly and the vulnerable residents of West Berks does this council not understand ? on the back of last years cuts we now have swinging and damaging cuts in provision in everything from meals on wheels to shopmobility ! I'm sorry "call me Dave" but you really don't understand the damage you are doing and the real resentment that is being generated by the population at large. You will not, cannot be allowed to get away with it anymore, expect heavy losses in the next round of elections when the people that this council and central government have betrayed goes to the poles.

Anyone who is as outraged by these cuts as I am shouls lobby the counil NOW ! and make things change, please, before its too late.


signed

Angry of West Berks

[Turin Machine]

Let me, if I may, draw a scenario. Young Gladys meets a dashing young man in 1935 and gets engaged, war comes and her lover becomes a pilot, falls burning from the sky in 41 fighting the nazi horde. She goes on working in a munitions factory where the explosives create an unsightly skin condition. After the war she never marries, never has children, therefor no grandchildren.

Brothers / sisters all dead. She is alone. She gets involved in childrens charities until she can now longer be of use. She is still alone. Who now looks after her ? The State ? or is she merely expected to die quietly ?

Old age is never simple, but it could be kinder.

[user23]

Let me, if I may, draw a scenario. Young Gladys meets a dashing young man in 1935 and gets engaged, war comes and her lover becomes a pilot, falls burning from the sky in 41 fighting the nazi horde. She goes on working in a munitions factory where the explosives create an unsightly skin condition. After the war she never marries, never has children, therefor no grandchildren.

Brothers / sisters all dead. She is alone. She gets involved in childrens charities until she can now longer be of use. She is still alone. Who now looks after her ? The State ? or is she merely expected to die quietly ?

Old age is never simple, but it could be kinder.

A heart wrenching tale indeed.

Consider another the story of another young woman called Gladys though. Young Gladys meets a dashing young man in 1935 and gets engaged, war comes and her lover becomes a pilot. Her winged warrior becomes one of the few to survive over the fields of Kent and they go on to have three children who in turn have their own offspring.

Gladys' husband passes away and she starts to need help around the house, but the children are too busy with their lives. A grandchild pops in to see her from time to time but they're all having children of their own so can't spare too much time.

The decision is made to put Gladys into care.

Now the problem here is that limited funding is now split between my Gladys and your Gladys and whilst your Gladys cannot do without care by the state, mine could be cared for by her family.

So, like you say, old age is never simple, but it could be kinder.

[Cognosco]

A heart wrenching tale indeed.

Consider another the story of another young woman called Gladys though. Young Gladys meets a dashing young man in 1935 and gets engaged, war comes and her lover becomes a pilot. Her winged warrior becomes one of the few to survive over the fields of Kent and they go on to have three children who in turn have their own offspring.

Gladys' husband passes away and she starts to need help around the house, but the children are too busy with their lives. A grandchild pops in to see her from time to time but they're all having children of their own so can't spare too much time.

The decision is made to put Gladys into care.

Now the problem here is that limited funding is now split between my Gladys and your Gladys and whilst your Gladys cannot do without care by the state, mine could be cared for by her family.

So, like you say, old age is never simple, but it could be kinder.

Yet both Glady's had paid in to NI. Why is the Gladys with family being penalised and why is the family being penalised especially if she needs a lot of looking after. Why was it not explained that although you pay NI it does not mean you get automatic help when you need it. What does this say for a society that saves banks from going broke, and they carry on business as usual, and then make the old and infirm suffer because there is now no money left for the Glady's of this world?

[On the edge]

Yet both Glady's had paid in to NI. Why is the Gladys with family being penalised and why is the family being penalised especially if she needs a lot of looking after. Why was it not explained that although you pay NI it does not mean you get automatic help when you need it. What does this say for a society that saves banks from going broke, and they carry on business as usual, and then make the old and infirm suffer because there is now no money left for the Glady's of this world?

We've either misunderstood or got it wrong. Gladys may well have had a house content policy for many years. So if during her infirmity her house got burgled - at least the stuff damaged or stolen will be replaced.

Presumably, if the policy had been with 'Government Insurance' she'd simply be told, sorry, we've spent too much on rehabilitating offenders so foxtrot Oscar; your kids should help.

Don't quite think the welfare state meant that you look after someone else's welfare whilst you are in a state.

[user23]

We've either misunderstood or got it wrong. Gladys may well have had a house content policy for many years. So if during her infirmity her house got burgled - at least the stuff damaged or stolen will be replaced.

Presumably, if the policy had been with 'Government Insurance' she'd simply be told, sorry, we've spent too much on rehabilitating offenders so foxtrot Oscar; your kids should help.

Don't quite think the welfare state meant that you look after someone else's welfare whilst you are in a state.

Gladys in my scenario has not paid a days NI in her life.

She's never had paid work but been a mother and housewife, two jobs in themselves some might argue.