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Richard Garvie
post Oct 27 2011, 03:32 PM
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Congrats to the two ward councillors for securing £12,000 of funding for a traffic survey at Thatcham Station. I'm not sure in all honesty what it will achieve though when the council have already ruled out a bridge and / or any measures that require investment but I guess it's a step in the right direction. The £12,000 has been taken out of the members pot which is used for projects in individual members wards.

I was pretty scathing of both members when I asked the council about this previously to find they had done nothing, and it's only fair that I should give them some credit for starting to do something about it (better late than never). They have a long way to go, their pledge was to look far and wide to resolve the issue, and I for one hope they can sort it out.
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post Oct 29 2011, 07:23 AM
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In one thread Richard is moaning about the lack of consultation or studies before a decision was made.

In this he's moaning that a consultation or study is taking place perhaps as a precursor to a decision about improvements being carried out.

I wish he'd be a bit more consistent.
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Richard Garvie
post Oct 29 2011, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 29 2011, 08:23 AM) *
In one thread Richard is moaning about the lack of consultation or studies before a decision was made.

In this he's moaning that a consultation or study is taking place perhaps as a precursor to a decision about improvements being carried out.

I wish he'd be a bit more consistent.


Rubbish. The council claim they have already identified the only available solution - a bridge!!! What will a traffic survey contribute? If any work was to be carried out, they should establish the cost of the bridge. How can they say it's unaffordable if it's not even been costed up?
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post Oct 29 2011, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 29 2011, 12:31 PM) *
Rubbish. The council claim they have already identified the only available solution - a bridge!!! What will a traffic survey contribute? If any work was to be carried out, they should establish the cost of the bridge. How can they say it's unaffordable if it's not even been costed up?

You don't have to be developer/engineer to know that it will cost more than several million pounds, which already writes it off as an idea. You're barking up a wrong one here.
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post Oct 29 2011, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 29 2011, 12:34 PM) *
You don't have to be developer/engineer to know that it will cost more than several million pounds, which already writes it off as an idea. You're barking up a wrong one here.


All I'm saying is that a £12k traffic survey is pretty much worthless. It will provide no value to delivering a solution, I fear that the council will simply use it to say that the number of cars using the hill does not justify a bridge and that's the end of the matter. The officers have already said nothing could be done, this survey is all about the elected members responding to criticism that they promised the world and won't be able to deliver.
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post Oct 29 2011, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 29 2011, 12:40 PM) *
All I'm saying is that a £12k traffic survey is pretty much worthless. It will provide no value to delivering a solution, I fear that the council will simply use it to say that the number of cars using the hill does not justify a bridge and that's the end of the matter. The officers have already said nothing could be done, this survey is all about the elected members responding to criticism that they promised the world and won't be able to deliver.

I'll repeat:

The only solution to any hold-up is a bridge, but a survey might bring about data that might mean better traffic management, or maybe show how pressure could be applied to the rail company to partner an idea to mitigate the delay.

Just because something can't be fixed, doesn't mean things couldn't be done to help reduce the nuisance.

Another big problem at that junction is the right turn to the post office depot; that could do with some thought.
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- Richard Garvie   Congestion at Thatcham Station   Oct 27 2011, 03:32 PM
- - xjay1337   What's the point of doing a survey if they won...   Oct 27 2011, 04:03 PM
- - Turin Machine   Ok, what would you do about the problem, go on, en...   Oct 27 2011, 04:07 PM
|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Oct 27 2011, 05:07...   Oct 27 2011, 04:15 PM
- - Turin Machine   where ? how ?   Oct 27 2011, 04:30 PM
- - betsy   Across the line at Thatcham Station of course...   Oct 27 2011, 04:47 PM
- - Richard Garvie   What the officers told me: Dear Mr Garvie, ...   Oct 27 2011, 05:01 PM
|- - Cognosco   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 27 2011, 06:0...   Oct 27 2011, 05:29 PM
- - spartacus   This has been covered numerous times locally in th...   Oct 27 2011, 07:00 PM
|- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (spartacus @ Oct 27 2011, 08:00 PM)...   Oct 27 2011, 08:33 PM
- - Turin Machine   A bridge would be difficult, the span needed to cl...   Oct 27 2011, 07:04 PM
|- - Lee   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Oct 27 2011, 08:04...   Nov 3 2011, 10:02 PM
- - NWNREADER   So.... If they 'do nothing', they are let...   Oct 27 2011, 08:48 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (NWNREADER @ Oct 27 2011, 09:48 PM)...   Oct 27 2011, 08:53 PM
||- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (user23 @ Oct 27 2011, 09:53 PM) Is...   Oct 27 2011, 09:12 PM
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|- - NWNREADER   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 27 2011, 09:5...   Oct 28 2011, 06:06 PM
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|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 29 2011, 12:2...   Oct 29 2011, 11:32 AM
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- - spartacus   You could go round in endless circles on this type...   Oct 27 2011, 11:02 PM
- - Richard Garvie   I take your point. The only way it could be paid f...   Oct 27 2011, 11:14 PM
- - Alice   As a cheaper solution to help ease the congestion,...   Oct 28 2011, 08:12 AM
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- - On the edge   Well XJ even the railway company admit that the cr...   Oct 28 2011, 04:21 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 28 2011, 05:21 P...   Oct 29 2011, 09:02 AM
|- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 29 2011, 10:02 AM) It...   Oct 29 2011, 11:29 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 29 2011, 12:2...   Oct 29 2011, 12:11 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 29 2011, 01:11 PM) No...   Oct 29 2011, 06:29 PM
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|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 29 2011, 12:3...   Oct 29 2011, 11:38 AM
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- - Andy Capp   Perhaps OTE would clarify?   Oct 30 2011, 04:10 PM
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