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Bofem
post Oct 4 2011, 12:32 PM
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A rather interesting opportunity has arisen..

As Newbury Town Councillors have refused to listen to the 1200 people who petitioned for a fenced off play area in Victoria Park, I was wondering if it was time to do away with them and run the things they run ourselves.

By happy coindidence, 1200 is the number required to trigger a referendum on this very question..alternatively, it's enough to trigger a review of the town council by WBC (I know....glass houses and all that, but it seems a sensible place to start).


Alternative structures could be.....

Nothing. Various community groups simply take on the services
Devolved community councils for the various parts (eg Turnpike Community Council)
Maybe the BID could manage things like Vicky Park/the market.

Most of you probably don't care, but when 10% of your customers ask you to do soomething and you refuse, voting em out isn't really an option...not enough seats are contested

Before you say "I don't care", there's a chance to save you £60 a year if you vote yes to abolition. But at what cost?





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Andy Capp
post Oct 4 2011, 09:31 PM
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If there are compelling reasons and support for no fence, why was one built for the previous playground?
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post Oct 4 2011, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 4 2011, 10:31 PM) *
If there are compelling reasons and support for no fence, why was one built for the previous playground?


To cater for the inactive parent who uses the fence as a "playpen" and can't even be bothered to get off their bums and push the swing ??
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Andy Capp
post Oct 4 2011, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE (Sidney @ Oct 4 2011, 11:06 PM) *
To cater for the inactive parent who uses the fence as a "playpen" and can't even be bothered to get off their bums and push the swing ??

While that might be your cynical view, it could also be argued that it is a good opportunity to let the kids free to make their own way in a relativity safe safe environment.

So like I said: if it was 'needed' before, why not now?
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post Oct 4 2011, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Oct 4 2011, 11:10 PM) *
While that might be your cynical view, it could also be argued that it is a good opportunity to let the kids free to make their own way in a relativity safe safe environment.


By the age of semi-supervised play a child should know what is safe to do so if they go running off and get run over by a pedal boat that's just natural selection. unsure.gif

QUOTE (dannyboy @ Oct 4 2011, 05:27 PM) *
what do you call play equipment gathered together with no fence around it then?


A play area. A fence makes no difference to the playability other than something for kids to try and vault over.
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- Bofem   Running our own affairs   Oct 4 2011, 12:32 PM
- - xjay1337   Would not work unless you want to end up like Chin...   Oct 4 2011, 12:41 PM
- - Dodgys smarter brother.   Seems to be simply an issue of cost. If each of t...   Oct 4 2011, 12:55 PM
- - stewiegriffin   I'm not sure what they feel the need to fence ...   Oct 4 2011, 01:27 PM
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