Help needed, Council let's us down again Options

[Simon]

A friend of mine is an english citizen, who has worked full time for over 10 years and has never claimed anything from the government before.

She has now hit a rough patch in her life and requires help but is not getting anything of what she needs.

She is 20 weeks pregnant and has just split from her boyfriend, she has no where to live and does not accrue enough points with council to get housing.

She has been offered a room at a b&b in slough (even though she works in Newbury) or a room at a half way house sharing bathroom facilities with the other guests. This place does not look or sound safe for her.

Does anyone know of way she could be helped or anyone else she can speak to?

[Guest_xjay1337_*]

Woah woah, again with taking things literally. It's clear now that you are either a friend/relative (or have connected on E-harmony) with CWB and getting very...defensive.

So your saying she got herself pregnant, and she was phsychic because she knew her ex was going to be an ***, carry on living in ur own cynical little word looking down on ppl from ur high pedal stool.

Pedal stool?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1hC0nIagH4&t=0m20s

[Lestat]

Woah woah, again with taking things literally. It's clear now that you are either a friend/relative (or have connected on E-harmony) with CWB and getting very...defensive.



Pedal stool?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1hC0nIagH4&t=0m20s

Too clear this up, I don't know anyone on here as I'm relatively new to this site, I moved from oxfordshire back in April, not that I'm expecting anyone to care, I'm just truly shocked at the disrespect the two pregnant ladies on this thread are getting, iv been brought up to respect women and all iv seen on this forum are disrepectful guys giving two women who only asked for advice negativity, is this what Berkshire guys are like, is it the water? Let me know cause I will stop drinking it.

[Guest_xjay1337_*]

I'm in Newbury three days a week on average, so look out for me! Pic below....you can't miss me.

Too clear this up, I don't know anyone on here as I'm relatively new to this site, I moved from oxfordshire back in April, not that I'm expecting anyone to care, I'm just truly shocked at the disrespect the two pregnant ladies on this thread are getting, iv been brought up to respect women and all iv seen on this forum are disrepectful guys giving two women who only asked for advice negativity, is this what Berkshire guys are like, is it the water? Let me know cause I will stop drinking it.

Firstly, there is no disrespect. Some comments are, perhaps, a little callus, but nothing "disrespectful". This is a public forum where people are entitled to share there views so long as they don't go too far with everyone calling each other knobheads or something. No-one has really said anything beyond the "limits" of a public domain, they are simply sharing views. Views of different people which aren't in alignment create friction which creates drama - which is what the last page has been.

To brandish "berkshire guys" as disrespectful obviously shows you being a female; and probably a feminist. Now I'm all for feminists, equal rights, equal pay, etc (which I support) but it goes both ways as that pregnancy is not an excuse (or a reason) to be given accommodation. Which is the views people have shared on a public board. People have said to look for house shares, do <this>, do <that>, and whether that's been read/picked up on is beside the point that a discussion about circumstances which are not fully disclosed will take place whether you like it or not. It's the nature of a forum. If there is not 100% of the information available people will speculate. Now this is half the fault of the forum at large and half the fault of the person who brought the topic up by not giving the full information.

You said it yourself, you don't know anyone on here (then again it's hardly like we have NWN Forum coffee evenings), but I wouldn't dare to brandish a county of guys as disrespectful based on a few internet posts. All of the females who I've encountered all say I'm caring, nice, sweet, etc, sure the same could be said for the rest of the gaggle of blokes on this forum. Just because we share our views and they don't happen to fall in line with your views doesn't make us ignorant.

PS I'm a woman.

@ xjay - pedal stool was meant for Strafin!

Regardless, I found an opportunity to post a funny video.

Also on the topic of rape babies, if you are raped (one of my close friends was raped a couple of years ago, she is so worried and nervous she hardly goes out any more, completely changed her, don't think I don't know how nasty that is...) and you are left pregnant (my friend wasn't thankfully), why don't you have an abortion?

I don't want to turn this into a whole pros/cons of abortion thread, but looking at this logically, you are about to have a child which you cannot afford nor do you have the proper environment to raise it in. Simple thing to do is get it aborted. Especially within the first few months or so of the pregnancy. People who say "oh they are alive", and "the personality of the living creature" are entitled to their views but at the end of the day, if they are unable to support the baby and they choose not to abort, why should society have to pick up their mess?

My above point; callus, but a point worth making.

[Lestat]

I assumed you to be a guy as you were offering your double bed to the two pregnant women and your profile states male, so I'm confused, are you male pretending to be female or female pretending to be male, regardless Strafin needs to realize that just sometimes in life things never go according to plan and these two pregnant ladies are just a small minority, I'm sure if they knew there relationships were not going to last they would not of planned there pregnancies and hence would not be in this predicament get so much ignorance and negativity. I agree if it was a single person asking for houses they should not be giving special treatment but there are children involved show some compassion would you have your new born baby on the streets living out of cardboard boxes, begging for money, answer is no

And I'm a male

[Guest_xjay1337_*]

Has indeed been a very good discussion, best one for quite a while I must say.

As much as I've 'enjoyed' this evenings discussions before I cut my internet off next week (boo hoo, but needs must at the moment), I am quite frankly cream crackered, and going to bed to watch Live at the Apollo.

Oh forgot that was on, thanks for the reminder lol. Anyway toodlepips

I assumed you to be a guy as you were offering your double bed to the two pregnant women and your profile states male, so I'm confused, are you male pretending to be female or female pretending to be male, regardless Strafin needs to realize that just sometimes in life things never go according to plan and these two pregnant ladies are just a small minority, I'm sure if they knew there relationships were not going to last they would not of planned there pregnancies and hence would not be in this predicament get so much ignorance and negativity. I agree if it was a single person asking for houses they should not be giving special treatment but there are children involved show some compassion would you have your new born baby on the streets living out of cardboard boxes, begging for money, answer is no

And I'm a male

I am a male pretending to be a male pretending to be a female pretending to be a male. Also if I offered my double bed to the two pregnant ladies, where would I sleep? Baby bumps take up one and a half spaces.

You also assumed I was being serious so we shall leave your flawed assumptions behind, shall we?

I think Strafin makes a fair point though, so can't really argue against it.

I'm sure too that if they knew their relationships were going to blow up then, no they would perhaps of not gotten pregnant, but who's really to tell? I think no compassion should be involved, because people use pregnancy as a ticket into a free/cheap house. I work bloody hard for my poxy flat but if I was to have a child, I'd likely get a half decent house for a **** sight cheaper than what I'm paying now.

Now I UNDERSTAND that I don't know the full facts of the person we're talking about (not sure who myself now...) but the point is that here, a pregnancy is being used as a sort of levvy into housing. No-one wants to see a new born baby on the streets, but I tell you; if that started to happen I'm pretty sure that;

a.) People would have a dam (spelt incorrectly on purpose) sight less babies (means I can drink my coffee in Starbucks in peace), or at least PLAN their family in a better way (as in making sure your spouse is up to the challenge, not cheating on you for 2 years before hand, for example)
B.) People who couldn't afford to live or support themselves to begin with would not use pregnancy, burdening the benefit and support system even further, as a way to try and get a place to live - means tax payer is paying for accommodation, food, clothing, etc, plus already paying for hospital treatments, etc as required..
c.) Cake would be cheaper.

I'm a night owl, too busy playing PS3, watching iPlayer and random TV channels to switch off lol.