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Richard Garvie
post Mar 26 2011, 09:18 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12846318

The yearly tax-free payment to help people pay for their heating in the winter was worth £250 for the over 60s last week, and £400 for the over 80s.

But the payment will revert to £200 and £300 for the two age groups in the winter of 2011-12.
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Andy Capp
post Mar 27 2011, 10:39 AM
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I see this as an ongoing cycle of peaks and troughs. Things might change as the labour market changes.
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post Mar 27 2011, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 27 2011, 11:39 AM) *
I see this as an ongoing cycle of peaks and troughs. Things might change as the labour market changes.
True, though it's quite unusual for the party with the largest number of seats to fall so far behind the opposition straight after the election then reverse this trend a year later, which is what has happened.

I guess the recession and the coalition mean, politically speaking, we live in unusual times.
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post Mar 27 2011, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 27 2011, 12:27 PM) *
True, though it's quite unusual for the party with the largest number of seats to fall so far behind the opposition straight after the election then reverse this trend a year later, which is what has happened.

I guess the recession and the coalition mean, politically speaking, we live in unusual times.


I would wait and see how the polls react when the cuts really start to bite which will not be until later this year.

You have all the proposed redundancies to come yet, thousands of NHS Staff to go from the SHA's and PCT's.
Police, Army, Navy, Firebrigade, Local Authorities etc. The only ones that seem to have escaped without really suffering are the ones that have caused all of the financial problems. The gamblers of the financial institutions.

Not that polls tell you much as again it only tells you the answer to the questions asked, which means they are loaded to give the answer that the questioner wants. wink.gif


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post Mar 28 2011, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE (Cognosco @ Mar 27 2011, 12:49 PM) *
Not that polls tell you much as again it only tells you the answer to the questions asked, which means they are loaded to give the answer that the questioner wants. wink.gif

You mean like Polls asking if an allotment holder wants self management for instance?
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post Mar 28 2011, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Mar 28 2011, 09:59 AM) *
You mean like Polls asking if an allotment holder wants self management for instance?

What is loaded about polling allotmenteers if they would prefer self management?
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post Mar 28 2011, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 28 2011, 12:52 PM) *
What is loaded about polling allotmenteers if they would prefer self management?

You'd have to ask Cognosco - he is the one calling into question the reliability of polls.
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