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Richard Garvie
post Mar 26 2011, 09:18 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12846318

The yearly tax-free payment to help people pay for their heating in the winter was worth £250 for the over 60s last week, and £400 for the over 80s.

But the payment will revert to £200 and £300 for the two age groups in the winter of 2011-12.
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Andy Capp
post Mar 27 2011, 09:35 AM
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In opposition, it is a part of the political method to bring to the front the stories that are concealed, but I agree that I suspect that Labour would have made the cut as well. Just like with the 10p tax rate, I see them as election bribes.
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post Mar 27 2011, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 27 2011, 10:35 AM) *
In opposition, it is a part of the political method to bring to the front the stories that are concealed, but I agree that I suspect that Labour would have made the cut as well. Just like they did with the 10p tax rate. I see them as election bribes.



I.e.in other words they are hypocrites. They got us into this mess and then decide to attack the coalition for doing what they would have done if they had stayed in power.
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post Mar 27 2011, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Mar 27 2011, 09:48 AM) *
I.e.in other words they are hypocrites. They got us into this mess and then decide to attack the coalition for doing what they would have done if they had stayed in power.

There is truth in there, but if we are to observe at this level, I am convinced the present government are headed by people who knew 'how bad' things were when they went electioneering. In other words, they avoided certain questions because they would be vote losers. In other words, they lied by omission.
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post Mar 27 2011, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 27 2011, 10:55 AM) *
There is truth in there, but if we are to observe at this level, I am convinced the present government are headed by people who knew 'how bad' things were when they went electioneering. In other words, they avoided certain questions because they would be vote losers. In other words, they lied by omission.



To be fair that is part of politics. The voting public want their comfort zone otherwise they wouldn't vote for the parties. That is why when politicians speak they are tuned to what the public want to hear and not what is right and correct. To get it right the public need educating. The fault is within our so called democracy.

I've been on the campaign trail and I've never met so many brain dead tunnel visioned people in all my life. In other words they want to hear what they want to hear and not the truth.
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