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Richard Garvie
post Mar 26 2011, 09:18 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12846318

The yearly tax-free payment to help people pay for their heating in the winter was worth £250 for the over 60s last week, and £400 for the over 80s.

But the payment will revert to £200 and £300 for the two age groups in the winter of 2011-12.
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Strafin
post Mar 26 2011, 11:11 PM
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As I said originally it is not the end of the world, but the categories are there for a reason. Which is essentially what you have just said yourself, except like most posters on here now, you can't help but have a go and treat every post as a personal argument.
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Andy Capp
post Mar 26 2011, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Mar 26 2011, 11:11 PM) *
As I said originally it is not the end of the world, but the categories are there for a reason. Which is essentially what you have just said yourself, except like most posters on here now, you can't help but have a go and treat every post as a personal argument.

Fine, so you understand why we are having this conversation then, but I don't understand what value your last post brings, other than to demonstrate you behave like me.

My gripe is that some on here are happier to take shot at Richard Garvie when ever they can, and regardless of its merits. On this I think it is a petty issue. Why do people like user23 feel it necessary to censure someone on this issue. I very much doubt it is out of concern for the integrity of the forum as he stated.
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post Mar 27 2011, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 27 2011, 12:34 AM) *
Fine, so you understand why we are having this conversation then, but I don't understand what value your last post brings, other than to demonstrate you behave like me.

My gripe is that some on here are happier to take shot at Richard Garvie when ever they can, and regardless of its merits. On this I think it is a petty issue. Why do people like user23 feel it necessary to censure someone on this issue. I very much doubt it is out of concern for the integrity of the forum as he stated.



People like User23 come from an Orwellian world where control by the few is the eventual goal. He doesn't like it so it shouldn't be on here. We should be welcoming differences like Richard Garvie so we can have good and different debates. Just because we are from Newbury doesn't mean we should go with the image of a brain dead and limited society. There is more to Newbury than Neanderthals going about their business. wink.gif tongue.gif
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- Richard Garvie   Winter fuel payments cut   Mar 26 2011, 09:18 AM
- - blackdog   This is Newbury News?   Mar 26 2011, 09:43 AM
|- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 26 2011, 09:43 AM) ...   Mar 26 2011, 09:45 AM
|- - user23   QUOTE (blackdog @ Mar 26 2011, 09:43 AM) ...   Mar 26 2011, 10:49 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 26 2011, 10:49 AM) No...   Mar 26 2011, 10:53 AM
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|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 26 2011, 11:40 AM) Th...   Mar 26 2011, 11:44 AM
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|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 26 2011, 11:49 AM) Th...   Mar 26 2011, 11:53 AM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 26 2011, 11:49 AM) Th...   Mar 26 2011, 02:57 PM
|- - Cognosco   QUOTE (GMR @ Mar 26 2011, 02:57 PM) This ...   Mar 26 2011, 03:05 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Cognosco @ Mar 26 2011, 03:05 PM) ...   Mar 26 2011, 03:21 PM
- - Andy Capp   Does it really matter where it is? We don't h...   Mar 26 2011, 09:47 AM
- - GMR   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 26 2011, 09:1...   Mar 26 2011, 10:35 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (GMR @ Mar 26 2011, 10:35 AM) Yes, ...   Mar 26 2011, 10:37 AM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 26 2011, 10:37 AM)...   Mar 26 2011, 10:46 AM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (GMR @ Mar 26 2011, 10:46 AM) I can...   Mar 26 2011, 10:55 AM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Mar 26 2011, 10:55 AM)...   Mar 26 2011, 11:09 AM
- - Richard Garvie   We can argue about the reason behind the deficit a...   Mar 26 2011, 11:36 AM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 26 2011, 11:3...   Mar 26 2011, 02:55 PM
|- - Jayjay   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 26 2011, 11:3...   Mar 26 2011, 05:20 PM
|- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (Jayjay @ Mar 26 2011, 05:20 PM) Th...   Mar 26 2011, 05:45 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 26 2011, 05:4...   Mar 26 2011, 06:04 PM
|- - Cognosco   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 26 2011, 05:4...   Mar 26 2011, 06:12 PM
- - Simon Kirby   Richard, I really don't agree with winter fuel...   Mar 26 2011, 11:40 AM
- - Andy Capp   I think there is a moral to all this. Don't m...   Mar 26 2011, 11:43 AM
- - Strafin   It is in the wrong place, not the end of the world...   Mar 26 2011, 12:00 PM
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|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (Strafin @ Mar 26 2011, 09:43 PM) Y...   Mar 26 2011, 09:54 PM
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|- - GMR   QUOTE (Strafin @ Mar 26 2011, 10:43 PM) Y...   Mar 27 2011, 09:27 AM
- - JeffG   Seeing as the winter fuel payment just covered a p...   Mar 26 2011, 12:54 PM
- - dannyboy   Instead of knitting for their great grandkids, why...   Mar 26 2011, 12:54 PM
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|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (JeffG @ Mar 26 2011, 12:56 PM) A r...   Mar 26 2011, 12:57 PM
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- - user23   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 26 2011, 09:1...   Mar 26 2011, 01:02 PM
- - bfg   Some of the comments here are disgusting. Richard ...   Mar 26 2011, 02:38 PM
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- - NWNREADER   I may be mistaken, but I believe the £400 rate was...   Mar 26 2011, 09:37 PM
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- - user23   Both the Tories and the Lib Dems seem to be eating...   Mar 27 2011, 10:36 AM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 27 2011, 11:36 AM) Bo...   Mar 27 2011, 01:50 PM
||- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (GMR @ Mar 27 2011, 01:50 PM) That ...   Mar 27 2011, 03:08 PM
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|- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 27 2011, 10:36 AM) Bo...   Mar 27 2011, 03:03 PM
|- - user23   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 27 2011, 04:0...   Mar 27 2011, 03:14 PM
|- - Richard Garvie   QUOTE (user23 @ Mar 27 2011, 03:14 PM) Vo...   Mar 27 2011, 03:20 PM
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