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Richard Garvie
post Mar 26 2011, 09:18 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12846318

The yearly tax-free payment to help people pay for their heating in the winter was worth £250 for the over 60s last week, and £400 for the over 80s.

But the payment will revert to £200 and £300 for the two age groups in the winter of 2011-12.
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Simon Kirby
post Mar 26 2011, 11:40 AM
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Richard, I really don't agree with winter fuel payment. Just pay an adequate state pension.

The state administration is so complex and involved with payments for this, and exceptions for that, the only winner is the Big Fat State. How much money does it take to administer the winter fuel payments? And that's just one of myriad rules and regulations that sustain the behemoth state apparatus. Even the Big Society turns out to be nothing but a money spinner for the Big Fat State and it's familiars.


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- Richard Garvie   Winter fuel payments cut   Mar 26 2011, 09:18 AM
- - blackdog   This is Newbury News?   Mar 26 2011, 09:43 AM
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- - Andy Capp   Does it really matter where it is? We don't h...   Mar 26 2011, 09:47 AM
- - GMR   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Mar 26 2011, 09:1...   Mar 26 2011, 10:35 AM
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- - Richard Garvie   We can argue about the reason behind the deficit a...   Mar 26 2011, 11:36 AM
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