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Blake
post May 19 2009, 08:47 AM
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Has someone hit the bollards in the town center again?

How many times has it been now. Seems to happen almost twice a month.
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Blake
post May 20 2009, 11:03 AM
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I have no sympathy with anyone who drives onto the bollards for this reason; reading road signs is an essential part of driving.

When learning to drive, you are taught this and it it has inherent legal implications. I have inspected the area where the bollards are and they are VERY well signposted.

I just hope WBC is reclaiming ALL the expenses of repairing the bollards from the dodgy drivers insurance firms.
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post May 20 2009, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (Blake @ May 20 2009, 12:03 PM) *
I have no sympathy with anyone who drives onto the bollards for this reason; reading road signs is an essential part of driving.

When learning to drive, you are taught this and it it has inherent legal implications. I have inspected the area where the bollards are and they are VERY well signposted.

I just hope WBC is reclaiming ALL the expenses of repairing the bollards from the dodgy drivers insurance firms.


Congratulations on being so perfect Blake. I hope when the day comes and you make a terrible mistake (and you will because although you think you are perfect you are in fact human) other people will show you more compassion than you have shown poor Margaret here.
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post May 23 2009, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE (Gumbo @ May 20 2009, 12:33 PM) *
Congratulations on being so perfect Blake. I hope when the day comes and you make a terrible mistake (and you will because although you think you are perfect you are in fact human) other people will show you more compassion than you have shown poor Margaret here.

Rest assured, if a member of my family or myself is innocently driving along a road, and another motorists failed to spot a Give Way sign and markings for a split second, EXACTLY the same way they fail to notice the No Motor Vehicle Sign, and cause a collision resulting in injury, I will NOT be showing compassion to that other driver.

Yes it will be a terrible mistake, but I won't be trying to make excuses, and I won't be entertaining excuses from other parties trying to exonerate the guilty driver.

Having lost a cousin (as in now DEAD) to a motorist who had a minor lapse of concentration and observance, I cannot accept all these excuses for failing to abide by the legally posted and visible road signs. A minor offence one moment can easily become a major offence the next.

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There is a Traffic Advisory Leaflet (4/97) on the Department of Transport website that says bollards should not rise beneath cars that are going over them (health and safety). Clearly, WBC have chosen to ignore these guidelines.

And you chose to ignore several signs including one giving an order.

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You can't reason with some of this lot Iommi they want to see these poor people punished for some reason. As you point out the punishment doesn't really fit the crime.

Better a wrecked motor than a wrecked life. It's a very effective warning though, I can't see the driver subsequently driving around with the same lack of concentration ever again.

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I think more signs are needed to make drivers more aware of the bollards. Now I know we are all aware, but we live here. If your not familiar with a town and are following a taxi/bus you may miss the signs. Should that really result in your car being smashed up? No, i dont think so. A fine and 3 points is more appropriate. I dread to think the impact if a small child/baby is in a car seat in the front seat what it would do.

How many signs would be enough? Does 3 points on the licence really get the message across that lack of attention occasionally will kill? What's a child/baby got to do with the issue - In that case I wonder what a split second's lapse of concentration causing a crash at a low speed of 30mph do to a child/baby in the front seat. I wonder if you would be so understanding if *you* were the innocent party and the cause was a momentarily lack of observance from the other driver.


Stop making excuses - life isn't wrapped up in cotton wool to protect you 100% of the time - there are many times when *YOU* have to take full responsibility for your actions and consequences.
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- Blake   Bollards   May 19 2009, 08:47 AM
- - funinuk   My window looks directly onto the Bartholomew Stre...   May 19 2009, 10:15 AM
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|- - Gumbo   QUOTE (Margo @ May 20 2009, 12:56 AM) ...   May 20 2009, 08:55 AM
|- - Hugh Saskin   QUOTE (Gumbo @ May 20 2009, 09:55 AM) You...   May 20 2009, 09:51 AM
|- - Never Again!   QUOTE (Hugh Saskin @ May 20 2009, 10:51 A...   May 20 2009, 11:06 PM
|- - Gumbo   QUOTE (Never Again! @ May 21 2009, 12...   May 22 2009, 08:56 AM
- - Good Boy Racer   I noticed last night driving through town... as i ...   May 19 2009, 10:36 AM
- - Bill1   Funinuk. You've seen people successfully foll...   May 19 2009, 11:10 AM
- - Simon   Bottom line is that if drivers are not paying atte...   May 19 2009, 11:40 AM
- - Wicca   I agree with Simon, there are plenty of signs arou...   May 19 2009, 11:55 AM
- - GMR   People complain that the signs are too high. Maybe...   May 19 2009, 12:16 PM
- - Iommi   While the majority of drivers do not hit the bolla...   May 19 2009, 03:20 PM
- - Simon   Other towns have bollards, and Im sure they have a...   May 19 2009, 03:53 PM
- - Twenty Something   I agree with the above. It is a case of being care...   May 19 2009, 04:15 PM
- - J C   Manchester for example have installed CCTV and you...   May 19 2009, 04:39 PM
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- - Iommi   Of course, in law, it is only the drivers fault. ...   May 19 2009, 05:48 PM
- - GMR   I was talking to someone in town and they said the...   May 19 2009, 08:30 PM
- - GrumblingAgain   Agreeing with Simon and Twenty Something. I am su...   May 19 2009, 09:23 PM
|- - GMR   QUOTE (Blake @ May 20 2009, 12:03 PM) I h...   May 20 2009, 05:58 PM
- - Andy   I too have no real sympathy for drivers who cannot...   May 20 2009, 12:34 PM
|- - IanB   QUOTE (Andy @ May 20 2009, 01:34 PM) I to...   May 21 2009, 12:09 PM
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|- - TallDarkAndHandsome   I have a suggestion. As it costs £100,000 a year ...   May 22 2009, 10:09 AM
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