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Ziggy
post Oct 27 2010, 07:33 AM
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http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14945

Now I have no particular qualifications or expertise in town planning, but is this not rather shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted? Ever since I have lived in the area, new housing and retail developments have been given the go-ahead with seemingly no strategic thinking whatsoever about roads or other infrastructure.
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spartacus
post Oct 27 2010, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 27 2010, 02:32 PM) *
If anything, perhaps Thatcham deserve a bridge for the railway crossing more than anything.

It's a major pain, especially now that the Kennet Heath development is fully occupied and so even more traffic crawls over that bottleneck. But a bridge is another one of those pie-in-the-sky projects which will never get off the ground.... The 'level crossing bridge' would have to be massive as it wouldn't just be the railway it would need to cross but also the canal and the river. Quite a span for the approach ramps.. would need several million to see that sort of a project through and those figures will never be found for such a relatively minor road.


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post Oct 27 2010, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (spartacus @ Oct 27 2010, 07:44 PM) *
It's a major pain, especially now that the Kennet Heath development is fully occupied and so even more traffic crawls over that bottleneck. But a bridge is another one of those pie-in-the-sky projects which will never get off the ground.... The 'level crossing bridge' would have to be massive as it wouldn't just be the railway it would need to cross but also the canal and the river. Quite a span for the approach ramps.. would need several million to see that sort of a project through and those figures will never be found for such a relatively minor road.


The cost of a bridge is simply an excuse - trotted out by those living 'the other side' who feel they should be immune from consequences of modern world. The cost is really quite cheap - mainly earth works, there are many other examples particularly on the old Southern lines. Appreciate that we in this part of Berkshire doesn't do bridges very well - i.e. refurbishing the bridge in Parkway and the joke that is Blackboys Bridge west of the Station laugh.gif


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post Oct 28 2010, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 27 2010, 08:08 PM) *
The cost of a bridge is simply an excuse - trotted out by those living 'the other side' who feel they should be immune from consequences of modern world. The cost is really quite cheap - mainly earth works, there are many other examples particularly on the old Southern lines. Appreciate that we in this part of Berkshire doesn't do bridges very well - i.e. refurbishing the bridge in Parkway and the joke that is Blackboys Bridge west of the Station laugh.gif


What would you imagine the cost of a bridge to be? I think that it would be good to have a bridge, but the main question regarding all infrastructure projects here in West Berks is where is the money coming from? We didn't demand money from developers for the significant infrastructure that we require, and now we have to provide these roads, bridges and buildings after the horse has already bolted as someone else put it. This is another reason why I believe we need a planning review. Why have we allowed all of this development without improving our infrastructure as part of it???
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- Ziggy   We need a ring road   Oct 27 2010, 07:33 AM
- - Bloggo   QUOTE (Ziggy @ Oct 27 2010, 08:33 AM) htt...   Oct 27 2010, 07:45 AM
- - Iommi   I agree with both of you, but it ain't going t...   Oct 27 2010, 07:53 AM
- - dannyboy   Suggestions as to possible routes please. IMHO it ...   Oct 27 2010, 08:05 AM
- - dannyboy   The councillor is suggesting that we don't wan...   Oct 27 2010, 08:05 AM
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|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 27 2010, 12:27 PM) Why...   Oct 27 2010, 11:31 AM
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|- - dannyboy   QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 27 2010, 02:32 PM) OK,...   Oct 27 2010, 01:35 PM
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- - Bloggo   I think the problem is that Newbury was never ever...   Oct 27 2010, 09:53 AM
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|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Richard Garvie @ Oct 28 2010, 10:0...   Oct 28 2010, 06:46 PM
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- - Iommi   Another way to look at it: would it be true to say...   Oct 28 2010, 10:30 PM
- - Biker1   So we just go on and on building more and more roa...   Oct 29 2010, 08:53 AM
|- - Iommi   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 29 2010, 09:53 AM) So...   Oct 29 2010, 08:56 AM
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