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Oct 20 2010, 09:29 AM
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Yesterday the axe swung on the military. As one who took volunatry redunancy in the early 90's, I was lucky enough to find a job before I took off my uniform for the last time. The prospect of losing thousands of police, civil servants, it doesn't look good.
Cutting back on manpower whether it be in the civil service ranks, military, police, etc will just leave gaps and overwork those still in jobs. Standards will slip, which will just leave both the public and those who are to run these agencies disgruntled.
Earmarking education funding for poorer areas being paid for by those who are supposedly more affluent taxpayers is not equal, as the school curriculum should be the same across the UK. How about leveing a tax on those parents who kids don't attend schools or leave without at least C grade GCSE's in English, Math, Citizenship and Science. If you don't have a legitmate reason for obtaining those grades, then you were surely wasting taxpayer money. It then seems that these same people will be the ones on lower incomes and seeking to obtain benefits. Education is the key to success.
Now that tution fees are due to increase, what is next, paying for you children to attend pre university education?
Surely if the reason behind this is to reduce the budget defecit, then there has got to be other ways to do it. Get the banks to pay back what they owe sooner. Cut foreign aid by at least 2/3's and give only for humanitarian aid and those projects being run by allies who truly support democracy.
I am not a communist, socialist, anarchist, or even a lib dem. I am just a tax payer who wants in power those who seem to want to do the best job for EVERYBODY. Will the next winter of discontent come from the middle class?
I don't think making huge cuts in public services produces positive results. The UK is in crisis mode, and the saying is "Charity begins at home". Wasn't the third world debt was eliminated by the global powers in 2000? For a couple of years we need to close ranks and get our own house in order before we are on a footing to help others.
Again, stop sticking it to the taxpayers, and begin to look for alternative means to get the UK back on a solid footing.
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Oct 23 2010, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Oct 22 2010, 10:01 PM) Very slightly off topic. I have just read (before anyone asks, it was not the Mail) that the photo of Danny Alexander in the car and showing the restricted papers was taken while he was being chauffered the 100 yards to parliament. I cannot check this in the main report as the recyling was done today. Can this be true? Apparently it was true - and it also answers the question posed in the response above yours!
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Oct 23 2010, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 23 2010, 12:21 PM) Apparently it was true - and it also answers the question posed in the response above yours! Well I am speechless, and that takes a lot of doing. We are 'all in this in together' and have to tighten our belts and a fit, young man like this is inacapable of walking 100 yards.
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Oct 23 2010, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Oct 23 2010, 03:34 PM) Well I am speechless, and that takes a lot of doing. We are 'all in this in together' and have to tighten our belts and a fit, young man like this is inacapable of walking 100 yards. QUOTE (On the edge @ Oct 23 2010, 04:15 PM) Quite so! He could even have used a 'Boris bike' - free for first half hour. Of course he is capable; it would almost certainly have been down to security advice.
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Oct 23 2010, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 23 2010, 05:21 PM) Of course he is capable; it would almost certainly have been down to security advice. Oh come on. Even the Queen has done a walkabout outside Buckingham Palace.
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Oct 23 2010, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Oct 23 2010, 08:40 PM) Oh come on. Even the Queen has done a walkabout outside Buckingham Palace. I would imagine there is a marked difference in cost between the two, and the security would make their decisions based on safety and cost. Do you think it is really because he is lazy?
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Oct 23 2010, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 23 2010, 08:45 PM) I would imagine there is a marked difference in cost between the two, and the security would make their decisions based on safety and cost.
Do you think it is really because he is lazy? No I don't think he is lazy, but I don't think it is a security issue either. David Cameron rides a bike to work, (albeit with a car carrying his bag and shoes) surely far more of a security risk than 100 yards along Whitehall. I think he is insensitive - taking a chauffeur driven car for 100 yards to a budget that takes the mobility component off disabled people in care homes. Or is he one of the MP's so full of their own importance that they were horrified that the cut in their expenses meant they had to travel in standard class.
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Oct 23 2010, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (Jayjay @ Oct 23 2010, 10:08 PM) No I don't think he is lazy, but I don't think it is a security issue either. David Cameron rides a bike to work, (albeit with a car carrying his bag and shoes) surely far more of a security risk than 100 yards along Whitehall. I think he is insensitive - taking a chauffeur driven car for 100 yards to a budget that takes the mobility component off disabled people in care homes. Or is he one of the MP's so full of their own importance that they were horrified that the cut in their expenses meant they had to travel in standard class. I think my speculation is more believable than your spleen you have just delivered anyway.
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Oct 23 2010, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 23 2010, 10:27 PM) I think my speculation is more believable than your spleen you have just delivered anyway. Really? Seemed quite a reasoned response. Having met some of the MP's who felt it wholly unreasonable to make them travel 2nd class, it is quite believable.
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