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post Oct 1 2010, 10:34 AM
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Why are Police causing massive inconvenience to thousands and not bringing incident to swift end by intervention; presume a jumper or the like?

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14702


Almost certainly this will result in more accidents due to overloaded local roads, whilst police never seem to have in mind rapid reopening of this major artery.
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post Oct 2 2010, 04:15 PM
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Fantastic and reasoned - if your argument falls down use a swear word.

I don't think I have shown any lack of compassion, I'm just not jumping on the "poor sole - look how understanding I am" bandwagon when they may well be very sinister reasons for this action. I have also not said at any point that I'm correct - just putting across a theory.
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post Oct 2 2010, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (DrPepper @ Oct 2 2010, 05:15 PM) *
Fantastic and reasoned - if your argument falls down use a swear word.

I don't think I have shown any lack of compassion, I'm just not jumping on the "poor sole - look how understanding I am" bandwagon when they may well be very sinister reasons for this action. I have also not said at any point that I'm correct - just putting across a theory.


Who's jumping on the bandwagon you quote Dr Pepper.

I understand how inconvenient these types of delay (like any delay) are, it's the comments made about a fellow human being (who we nothing about) that shocked and upset me.
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post Oct 3 2010, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE (Bill1 @ Oct 2 2010, 08:23 PM) *
Who's jumping on the bandwagon you quote Dr Pepper.

I understand how inconvenient these types of delay (like any delay) are, it's the comments made about a fellow human being (who we nothing about) that shocked and upset me.


Who's bandwagon jumping? All those who after the first post came out with psuedo sympathy for a person no one here knows doing something for a reason no one here knows. That is the balance that needs re-dressing with a little bit of realism rather trying to score a brownie point for being the most caring person on this forum.

I don't know the details - hence why I posted a few alternatives to what may or may not have happened.

No one on here knows the details - but many have blindly taken things at face value and slated others for being maybe a bit more open minded with the ability to think for themselves.

To say it again - NO ONE HERE KNOWS - so all opinions are surely equally as valid.

Something to ponder - all you caring types showing sympathy, would you still be so sympathetic if a relative needed an ambulance and it couldn't get to them in time because of this selfish act?
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post Oct 3 2010, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (DrPepper @ Oct 3 2010, 11:17 AM) *
Who's bandwagon jumping? All those who after the first post came out with psuedo sympathy for a person no one here knows doing something for a reason no one here knows. That is the balance that needs re-dressing with a little bit of realism rather trying to score a brownie point for being the most caring person on this forum.

I don't know the details - hence why I posted a few alternatives to what may or may not have happened.

No one on here knows the details - but many have blindly taken things at face value and slated others for being maybe a bit more open minded with the ability to think for themselves.

To say it again - NO ONE HERE KNOWS - so all opinions are surely equally as valid.

Something to ponder - all you caring types showing sympathy, would you still be so sympathetic if a relative needed an ambulance and it couldn't get to them in time because of this selfish act?

You and others had already made up their minds what happened. It was only when your rather ignorant point of view got exposed by the reaction, did people like you moderate their language. 'Brownies points' is crap, it was revulsion at some people's almost inhumane point of view.
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post Oct 3 2010, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (Iommi @ Oct 3 2010, 12:05 PM) *
You and others had already made up their minds what happened. It was only when your rather ignorant point of view got exposed by the reaction, did people like you moderate their language. 'Brownies points' is crap, it was revulsion at some people's almost inhumane point of view.


Eh, its you who has already made up your mind that is was a suicide attempt. I have come up with two or three alternatives - to which you have added nothing, you just bang on about it being a troubled person with mental disability - which is just your theory at the moment with no evidence to back it up. And no, there is no evidence to back up my theories either - that is what makes them theories in the first place!

I'm done with replying to your post on this subject now as I don't know what happened, you don't what happened and you seem incapable to debate beyond your own narrow minded point of view.
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post Oct 3 2010, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE (DrPepper @ Oct 3 2010, 12:30 PM) *
Eh, its you who has already made up your mind that is was a suicide attempt. I have come up with two or three alternatives - to which you have added nothing, you just bang on about it being a troubled person with mental disability - which is just your theory at the moment with no evidence to back it up. And no, there is no evidence to back up my theories either - that is what makes them theories in the first place! I'm done with replying to your post on this subject now as I don't know what happened, you don't what happened and you seem incapable to debate beyond your own narrow minded point of view.

Narrow minded! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif It is you that decided that if it was suicide and that if the the person didn't finish the job, he couldn't have meant it and was just attention seeking!!! It was others that recognised that there could be any number of issues at play.

I can debate, it is only you ignore totally all that surrounds the issue, like the feelings of the person's friends, relatives and dependants. I have constantly maintained we don't know what happened, but that doesn't remove the fact what some people's automatic response to this was, including yours.

Of course it was a regrettable incident, I don't think any one is denying that, it is just that we were talking about someone's life here and comments like 'he couldn't have meant it' is overlooking the whole issue.
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