Police causing the maximum inconvenience, M4 closure Options

[gel]

Why are Police causing massive inconvenience to thousands and not bringing incident to swift end by intervention; presume a jumper or the like?

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14702


Almost certainly this will result in more accidents due to overloaded local roads, whilst police never seem to have in mind rapid reopening of this major artery.

[Iommi]

No more so than those supporting/sympathising this person.

But no one is claiming the other posts are. OTE considered your post balanced and rational because he agrees with you, not because it was. Your opinion was assumptive and one sided; that is neither balanced nor rational. Whether anyone else's point was is immaterial, but at least they might be compassionate.

Sorry, just don't understand this response.

That explains a lot, but I can't see there is anything difficult to understand in it. I'm explaining that with any incident, consideration for welfare extends beyond the protagonist. There are a number of issues that are being ignorantly over looked by the 'let him jump', or 'he doesn't mean it' club.

I think you know full-well what I mean and you are just being deliberately obtuse.

There is no doubt that some people use attempted suicide as a cry for help. But in some cases people actually do want to end their lives. I'd like to think if it was anyone I knew on that bridge, people would do everything they could to stop the situation ending in death.

Exactly, and the police did everything they could to ensure that outcome. It is just regrettable that with have some people with such a narrow minded attitude about matter like these.

[DrPepper]

But no one is claiming the other posts are. OTE considered your post balanced and rational because he agrees with you, not because it was. Your opinion was assumptive and one sided; that is neither balanced nor rational. Whether anyone else's point was is immaterial, but at least they might be compassionate.

Why is it immaterial if opposing views are not balanced or rational, but highly relevant that mine aren't (I agree mine are wholly one sided, its what makes for a debate) - you can't have it both ways. To be fully supporting what could be deliberate action to cause chaos is not balanced or rational.

Because...... same situation bought Birmingham to a virtual standstill on Thursday, could this be a new way of disrupting our infrastructure? http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/09...aradise-bridge/

[Iommi]

Why is it immaterial if opposing views are not balanced or rational, but highly relevant that mine aren't (I agree mine are wholly one sided, its what makes for a debate) - you can't have it both ways.

I have already explained that no-one was saying that anyone was being B&R, except OTE towards your post. He made the claim that your post was B&R; I believe that to be simply not true.

In my view though, the sympathisers are being more 'human', and that makes up for any possible indiscretion in my view. Even if this person was simply seeking attention, that person was still a risk to himself, although doing something like he seems to have done (it has not been revealed what), doesn't sound like the efforts of a rational person.

Perhaps if there was any official news on the incident, we could speak with more authority.

To be fully supporting what could be deliberate action to cause chaos is not balanced or rational.

What stupid thing to say. Who is supporting the actions of this person, what ever they might be?

Because...... same situation bought Birmingham to a virtual standstill on Thursday, could this be a new way of disrupting our infrastructure?

Who knows, but to decide we would need to know the facts.

[DrPepper]

What stupid thing to say. Who is supporting the actions of this person, what ever they might be?

Err you, jacklets, darren, roost - need I go on.

As you say we don't yet know the details - so my views are just as valid and possible correct as yours might be.