Local Headteacher earns more than PM, Kennet and Trinity head earns £175k a year Options

[Strafin]

http://www.newburytoday.co.uk/News/Article...articleID=14018

I usually find it very easy to knock people and as most will know have no problems about complaining about what I think is wrong. The recent revelation of the primary school teacher in London earning £200k being one of those times. I now read that a local head is earning ridiculous amounts, but as I know him and indeed went to one of his schools, I found my reaction to be much less severe. I still think it's too much, and also another example of the public sector paying out over the odds again but somehow am slightly more accepting. I just wondered if anyone had any feelings one way or the other.

[Exhausted]

Excluding stupidly overpaid footballers, it's such a shame that in this country there seems to be an undercurrent of jealousy for anybody who earns better than average salaries. If we get the right people with the appropriate skills, they deserve and are entitled to the big bucks. Fred stacking shelves in the supermarket is paid according to his ability and almost certainly, anybody could do that job. The pyramid gets narrower the nearer one gets to the pinnacle and the smaller the pool of persons able to do the top job.

[DrPepper]

Excluding stupidly overpaid footballers, it's such a shame that in this country there seems to be an undercurrent of jealousy for anybody who earns better than average salaries. If we get the right people with the appropriate skills, they deserve and are entitled to the big bucks. Fred stacking shelves in the supermarket is paid according to his ability and almost certainly, anybody could do that job. The pyramid gets narrower the nearer one gets to the pinnacle and the smaller the pool of persons able to do the top job.

It's not jealousy, big salaries to the bosses in the private sector who set up and run their own businesses is great and an inspiration to us all - Branson, Sugar et all. 3K a week for managing a school, when no risk/gamble/financial input/special knowledge/skill (beyond what they learn at uni' and teacher training school) is unacceptable if only because where it will end? I look forward a dustman (no offence to dustmen, just an example) being paid similar amounts for emptying every bin on their round. Why not, it's only public money after all.

Make all the money you can, not take all the money you can, that's the difference.

[Andy1]

It's not jealousy, big salaries to the bosses in the private sector who set up and run their own businesses is great and an inspiration to us all - Branson, Sugar et all. 3K a week for managing a school, when no risk/gamble/financial input/special knowledge/skill (beyond what they learn at uni' and teacher training school) is unacceptable if only because where it will end? I look forward a dustman (no offence to dustmen, just an example) being paid similar amounts for emptying every bin on their round. Why not, it's only public money after all.

Make all the money you can, not take all the money you can, that's the difference.

You mention inspiration. A good Teacher will inspire the kids they teach, no amount of money can buy that. You then talk about Dustmen ( an example I know but not the right one), well why not mention Nurses and the amount of money they get paid. What about Soldiers on the frontline, for these guys there is huge risk, not with money but their lives.

I agree Branson, Sugar etc... are an inspiration to someone who wants to make lots of money but that's it.

[Rosewinelover]

well why not mention Nurses and the amount of money they get paid. What about Soldiers on the frontline, for these guys there is huge risk, not with money but their lives.

Totally agree with this. The country has got it the wrong way round. Kick a football (badly) and get paid thousands a week. Risk your life/save lifes, work long hours and you get paid pennies. These are the people who deserve to be paid the big money.

[DrPepper]

well why not mention Nurses and the amount of money they get paid. What about Soldiers on the frontline, for these guys there is huge risk, not with money but their lives.

Totally agree with this. The country has got it the wrong way round. Kick a football (badly) and get paid thousands a week. Risk your life/save lifes, work long hours and you get paid pennies. These are the people who deserve to be paid the big money.

Yep, agree. How many nurses, and in particular soldiers, who put their life on the line for us can ever earn this sort of money - even if they get to the very top of their particular ladder. No head teacher, however good they are at their job should earn this money in the public sector. If he was this exceptional wouldn't he have moved into the private sector long ago, would he not have been head hunted by many a private school? No doubt he is a good head, but £150K plus good is questionable. How long before every "good" head demands these sort of wages and it becomes the norm'?

These teacher salaries are fine in the private sector, where by the way, I bet their standards are far higher and Mr D would probably look very average.

I think basically that parents have a right to expect a £50k head and £30k teachers to be up to the job. If they are not get rid of them (as would happen in the private sector) and replace with someone who can do the job for the money. Why is Mr D getting so much more than say the head of St.Barts or Park House, let's face it he is only part time at two schools, not full time at both (unless one is a night school ) so should just get one full time wage, or two part time wages, in line with the going rate in West Berkshire.

[Iommi]

Yep, agree. How many nurses, and in particular soldiers, who put their life on the line for us can ever earn this sort of money - even if they get to the very top of their particular ladder.

I find this argument tedious. People in life are motivated by many things, and not all is money. The remuneration in these jobs is well known and people should consider this when embarking on these careers. How many nurses and soldiers are CEO (headteacher) material?

No head teacher, however good they are at their job should earn this money in the public sector. If he was this exceptional wouldn't he have moved into the private sector long ago, would he not have been head hunted by many a private school?

The subtext to this is the public schools shouldn't have headteachers that are as good as private schools.

No doubt he is a good head, but £150K plus good is questionable. How long before every "good" head demands these sort of wages and it becomes the norm'?

Surely this is easy to measure. Would they not have had KPIs?

These teacher salaries are fine in the private sector, where by the way, I bet their standards are far higher and Mr D would probably look very average.

Like I said, I would have thought KPIs and results would determine this.

I think basically that parents have a right to expect a £50k head and £30k teachers to be up to the job.

In a country with a diverse cost of living, having a fixed fee would benefit some and cost others. 50k ain't that much money. Average sales men can pull that quite comfortably.

If they are not get rid of them (as would happen in the private sector) and replace with someone who can do the job for the money.

I nearly agree, but this should happen through the whole profession, not just at the senior level..

Why is Mr D getting so much more than say the head of St.Barts or Park House, let's face it he is only part time at two schools, not full time at both (unless one is a night school ) so should just get one full time wage, or two part time wages, in line with the going rate in West Berkshire.

At senior level, people tend to have targets and if he hits them then fine. Perhaps the others haven't been so impressive?

I will admit though, there is always a smell of 'jobs for the boys' in all this, but hopefully, transparent remunerations of senior public servants is a step in the right direction, but don't discount the likelihood that other methods of paying in a more 'discrete' way are explored.

[Biker1]

I find this argument tedious. People in life are motivated by many things, and not all is money. The remuneration in these jobs is well known and people should consider this when embarking on these careers. How many nuses and soldiers are CEO (headteacher) material?


The subtext to this is the public schools shouldn't have headteachers that are as good as private schools.


Surely this is easy to measure. Would they not have had KPIs?


Like I said, I would have thought KPIs and results would determine this.


In a country with a diverse cost of living, having a fixed fee would benefit some and cost others. 50k ain't that much money. Average sales men can pull that quite comfortably.


I nearly agree, but this should happen through the whole profession, not just at the senior level..


At senior level, people tend to have targets and if he hits them then fine. Perhaps the others haven't been so impressive?

I will admit though, there is always a smell of 'jobs for the boys' in all this, but hopefully, transparent remunerations of senior public servants is a step in the right direction, but don't discount the likelihood that other methods of paying in a more 'discrete' way are explored.

Still agree with DrPepper!
He is paid too much! - Otherwise why the outcry and this debate in the first place?