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Jun 14 2020, 10:53 AM
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I am an American living in the UK for over 30 years now.. I am saddened, shocked and disturbed by the matter of George Floyd. No one should have to die like he did. The police should be held accountable for what happened. I have been unfriend by several people black and white in the past few days because of my opinion. This is from the Washington Post as they have been tracking the numbers of people dying from the police for the past few years. https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../...ngs.../1033 were shot and killed by the police. 601 of all races had a firearm 173 of all races had a knife 65 of all races used a vehicle 29 of all races used a toy gun 65 of all races used another object 55 of all races were unarmed 20 of all races were deem "unknown" 14 of those unarmed were Black 25 were White,11 Hispanic, 5 were other. One thing that is not kept in the database is the race of the police officer doing the shooting. 490 people where shot and killed in Chicago in 2019, that is down from 564 in 2018, and 756 in 2016. Shootings were down to 2,139 -- lower than 2018's count of 2,367. Still, city leaders have expressed hope that efforts undertaken since 2016 -- hiring more police officers, emphasizing community policing and making investments in social services and schools -- are helping to lessen violent crime. What has to happen,as it is happening in Chicago, is COMMUNITY POLICING, and making the investment in social services and schools. That is for the Democratic mayor and governor to figure out. Defunding won't solve the problem. Again, Memorial Day 2020 weekend, 85 shot, 24 dead. I the BLM matter group should be protesting black on black crime, gang violence, the 600K plus a year black babies being aborted. Also protest the millions of Mom's, of all colors, who are raising their kids alone with out help, emotionally or financially. These factors are also hurting the black community. Don't cherry pick the issues, address them all. One person unfriended me because I post a newspaper front page about that Met officer attacked while making an arrest. The person said that black men died in police custody in that area, and my response was while that matters, why isn't BLM protesting about the arrest, and how several black me tried to stop it. One even danced and took a selfie, then tried to kick a WPC who went to help. Where is the BLM comments/protest about that, and the WPC was black. Two of my children have BAME Godfathers, and they were asked to do it not for their sign, but for their character and kind hearts. We are missing this, as well as people accepting others opinions, and responsibility. BLM's matter, and I won't say all lives matter, as the black community has suffered. I think a lot of that suffering/racism has to be taken by that community, as responsibility and learning starts at home. Now I am sure some folks will see my opinion as racist, but it is the truth.. Lastly, I voted libertarian in the last election for POTUS, as I can't stomach either party at the moment.
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Jun 14 2020, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE (Phil_D11102 @ Jun 14 2020, 11:53 AM) I am an American living in the UK for over 30 years now.. I am saddened, shocked and disturbed by the matter of George Floyd. No one should have to die like he did. The police should be held accountable for what happened. I have been unfriend by several people black and white in the past few days because of my opinion. This is from the Washington Post as they have been tracking the numbers of people dying from the police for the past few years. https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../...ngs.../1033 were shot and killed by the police. 601 of all races had a firearm 173 of all races had a knife 65 of all races used a vehicle 29 of all races used a toy gun 65 of all races used another object 55 of all races were unarmed 20 of all races were deem "unknown" 14 of those unarmed were Black 25 were White,11 Hispanic, 5 were other. One thing that is not kept in the database is the race of the police officer doing the shooting. 490 people where shot and killed in Chicago in 2019, that is down from 564 in 2018, and 756 in 2016. Shootings were down to 2,139 -- lower than 2018's count of 2,367. Still, city leaders have expressed hope that efforts undertaken since 2016 -- hiring more police officers, emphasizing community policing and making investments in social services and schools -- are helping to lessen violent crime. What has to happen,as it is happening in Chicago, is COMMUNITY POLICING, and making the investment in social services and schools. That is for the Democratic mayor and governor to figure out. Defunding won't solve the problem. Again, Memorial Day 2020 weekend, 85 shot, 24 dead. I the BLM matter group should be protesting black on black crime, gang violence, the 600K plus a year black babies being aborted. Also protest the millions of Mom's, of all colors, who are raising their kids alone with out help, emotionally or financially. These factors are also hurting the black community. Don't cherry pick the issues, address them all. One person unfriended me because I post a newspaper front page about that Met officer attacked while making an arrest. The person said that black men died in police custody in that area, and my response was while that matters, why isn't BLM protesting about the arrest, and how several black me tried to stop it. One even danced and took a selfie, then tried to kick a WPC who went to help. Where is the BLM comments/protest about that, and the WPC was black. Two of my children have BAME Godfathers, and they were asked to do it not for their sign, but for their character and kind hearts. We are missing this, as well as people accepting others opinions, and responsibility. BLM's matter, and I won't say all lives matter, as the black community has suffered. I think a lot of that suffering/racism has to be taken by that community, as responsibility and learning starts at home. Now I am sure some folks will see my opinion as racist, but it is the truth.. Lastly, I voted libertarian in the last election for POTUS, as I can't stomach either party at the moment. You just gave a balanced educated view. So in lefty world that means you are a racist. Anyone seen the CHAZ "experiment" in Seattle, where the lunatics have taken over the asylum? Now that is something to behold.. https://mobile.twitter.com/FromKalen/status...709379688087555
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Jun 14 2020, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 14 2020, 12:15 PM) You just gave a balanced educated view. So in lefty world that means you are a racist. Anyone seen the CHAZ "experiment" in Seattle, where the lunatics have taken over the asylum? Now that is something to behold.. https://mobile.twitter.com/FromKalen/status...709379688087555Problem is 'cognitive dissonance.' People cannot change their narrative/opinion even when faced with facts. If you talk about the 250 to 500K black on white crime, your a racists. The black on black death rate is higher in the US and UK vs being killed by a cop or dying in police custody. As I said, I am made to feel like a racist because as it was said a balanced opinion is give. If the police did two simple things, things would change. 1 - any officer who gets 3 or more complaints in 5 years or less has to face an independent review. 2 - every officer gets a psych test every year. What happened in Atlanta yesterday is stupid. Cop field sobriety tests a black man sleeping in his car in a to go section of a Wendy's. When they try to arrest him, he fights, grabs the cops taser and runs. The other cop fires his taser 3 times to no help. The other cop shoots and kills the man after he points the taser at him. The shooter is fired, the other cop placed on administrative leave, the police chief resigns, and more riots with the Wendy's being burned out. At what point is person responsibility, culpability and compliance come into play. The guy wasn't unarmed, he took the taser forcefully from the cop. Chances are, and this won't come out, but he was probably wanted for something, which is why he ran. George Floyd's autopsy showed he was stoned, too stoned to drive. He also was just getting over Covid, as well as having a heart problem. He was killed by the cop force air and blood going around his body. He is at fault. The world is a screwed up place. Racism will NEVER be stopped, as man is sinful and wicked. The thing is you won't see that evil until is does something evil. Racists don't wear signs around their neck.
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