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Aug 8 2018, 07:02 AM
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Why on earth should Boris Johnson apologise for what he said about the burka?
It covers the wearers face and so is displaying an arrogant rudeness to anyone the wearer needs to communicate with. There is no religious requirement at all to cover the face and in some cases, it's actually symbolic of repression. On top of this, at this time of heightened national security, it is difficult to identify wearers and, just like the full face hoodie, ought to be restricted.
Some seeking to integrate into our community, with cultures and practices very different to those here in the UK might find this disturbing. However, integration is a two way street and arguably, this is one of the existing communities 'lines in the sand'.
Stifling debate as the PM clearly seeks to do is foolhardy and likely to create even more discontent and tension in both communities than there is already.
For me, this continual denial of real debate on crucial matters of difference is far more damaging to democracy than 'fake' news.
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The luvvies in the BBC may be baying for his blood, and the Guardian readers and sandal wearers and the 'faux shocked' and the Islamic hate preacher may be demanding action, but from a purely personal view I have to say I don't want to see the burka in the streets of Newbury.
It has already become a common item of dress in many areas of this country. In fact in some areas it doesn't even warrant a second glance. Birmingham, Bradford, virtually every London Borough, even parts of Reading. But last week I was driving along the A4 through Thatcham and walking along past the Sainsbury convenience store was a women in full black burka. So out of place and, if I'm honest, so unwelcome.
What does that say about me? I already know I'm religiously intolerant as I close the door on the Jehovah's Witnesses when they come a'knockin'. There's just something sinister about the burka that I don't want in my country. In my neighbourhood even.
Would I feel the same about a family of Amish moving in next door, with their odd dress sense and their quaint modes of transport? Maybe, but at least you can ask the Amish neighbour to help you knock together a garden shed and know they'll be round in a flash with hammers, saws and a whole bunch of willing hands.
Would the people crying out in support of wearing the burka TRUTHFULLY feel the same way if they had neighbours moving in next door who were following this particular practice when showing their faith? In Newbury I mean. I mean really welcome them. Newres included. A knock on the door if you decided to have a Sunday morning fry-up and allowed the waft of sizzling bacon to leak from your kitchen into their airspace?
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Aug 11 2018, 07:57 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 11 2018, 08:57 P... Aug 11 2018, 08:06 PM x2lls Hey Newres, check out the comments.
You will see t... Aug 11 2018, 09:42 PM SirWilliam This debate seems to concentrate round the freedom... Aug 12 2018, 08:36 AM x2lls ^^^^^ Previous two posts, very well said indeed. Aug 12 2018, 11:51 AM x2lls haha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Yy3VY... Aug 12 2018, 08:16 PM x2lls From within.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/... Aug 13 2018, 06:05 PM![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) je suis Charlie QUOTE (x2lls @ Aug 13 2018, 07:05 PM) Fro... Aug 13 2018, 07:18 PM![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) SirWilliam QUOTE (x2lls @ Aug 13 2018, 07:05 PM) Fro... Aug 13 2018, 07:22 PM![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) newres QUOTE (x2lls @ Aug 13 2018, 07:05 PM) Fro... Aug 14 2018, 10:14 AM![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) SirWilliam QUOTE (newres @ Aug 14 2018, 11:14 AM) I ... Aug 14 2018, 02:12 PM![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) x2lls QUOTE (newres @ Aug 14 2018, 11:14 AM) I ... Aug 14 2018, 06:39 PM![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) newres QUOTE (x2lls @ Aug 14 2018, 07:39 PM) Nic... Aug 14 2018, 07:03 PM![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (newres @ Aug 14 2018, 08:03 PM) It... Aug 15 2018, 05:31 AM![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) newres QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Aug 15 2018, 06... Aug 15 2018, 06:13 AM
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