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Apr 7 2018, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 7 2018, 10:34 AM) I thought stop and search still existed? What was stopped was stop and search because they is black, in other words, it had to be for reasons other than the colour of their skin, Exactly; the Met decided not to use these powers generally after formal enquiries revealed that they were abusing their authority usually in the way you describe.
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Apr 7 2018, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 7 2018, 12:53 PM) Exactly; the Met decided not to use these powers generally after formal enquiries revealed that they were abusing their authority usually in the way you describe. They were using profiling. If you are young and black in London you are more likely to carry a knife or be a victim of a knife attack than white or asian youngsters. That's just an unfortunate fact. Abandoning profiling is a mistake. Its uncomfortable but the other choice is lots more dead black teenagers. You can't have it both ways.
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Apr 7 2018, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 7 2018, 01:22 PM) They were using profiling. If you are young and black in London you are more likely to carry a knife or be a victim of a knife attack than white or asian youngsters. That's just an unfortunate fact. Abandoning profiling is a mistake. Its uncomfortable but the other choice is lots more dead black teenagers. You can't have it both ways. Ah yes, of course. Then, the lads who did for Stephen Lawrence weren't black were they? No, you can't have it both ways, but you can do your job properly.
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Apr 7 2018, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 7 2018, 04:01 PM) Ah yes, of course.
Then, the lads who did for Stephen Lawrence weren't black were they?
No, you can't have it both ways, but you can do your job properly. The Stephen Lawrence case was awful and they are WHITE scum, but this is the exception to the rule, if you look at pictures of fatalities this year.
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Apr 7 2018, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 7 2018, 05:14 PM) The Stephen Lawrence case was awful and they are WHITE scum, but this is the exception to the rule, if you look at pictures of fatalities this year. It's quite a big exception if you take a period of time and do a proper analysis. It's actually quite easy to properly justify 'shop and search' without using preset predudice and, ironically, secure a better clear up rate. I'm sure you can see that not all black man is walking through an areas of high crime are criminals anymore than is the expectation that all lorry drivers are using a mobile phone whilst driving.
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Apr 8 2018, 05:30 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 7 2018, 08:58 PM) It's quite a big exception if you take a period of time and do a proper analysis.
It's actually quite easy to properly justify 'shop and search' without using preset predudice and, ironically, secure a better clear up rate.
I'm sure you can see that not all black man is walking through an areas of high crime are criminals anymore than is the expectation that all lorry drivers are using a mobile phone whilst driving. or all black men in BMWs are pimps or drug dealers. It’s not profiling, it’s prefudice and the average policeman on the beat isn’t too bright either although I think that’s changing.
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Apr 8 2018, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 8 2018, 06:30 AM) or all black men in BMWs are pimps or drug dealers. It’s not profiling, it’s prefudice and the average policeman on the beat isn’t too bright either although I think that’s changing. I get what you are saying but I'd also suggest anyone in a 40k+ new beemer who doesn't have a "day job" should be looked into. Proof of earnings etc.
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Apr 8 2018, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 8 2018, 12:21 PM) I get what you are saying but I'd also suggest anyone in a 40k+ new beemer who doesn't have a "day job" should be looked into. Proof of earnings etc. So how on earth would a policeman know that the person didn’t have a day job?
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Apr 8 2018, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 8 2018, 01:37 PM) So how on earth would a policeman know that the person didn’t have a day job? It's called "an investigation" gettit?
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Apr 8 2018, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Apr 8 2018, 01:43 PM) It's called "an investigation" gettit? What, so you stop a black man for driving a BMW, ask him if he’s got a job and call it an investigation? Do you see why an education might be helpful in this example?
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Apr 8 2018, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 8 2018, 01:51 PM) What, so you stop a black man for driving a BMW, ask him if he’s got a job and call it an investigation? Do you see why an education might be helpful in this example? I'd also stop a white man in his early 20s doing the same thing. Its not about race. Its about common sense.
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Apr 8 2018, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 8 2018, 02:20 PM) I'd also stop a white man in his early 20s doing the same thing. Its not about race. Its about common sense. What about an white older man in a boiler suit? I'm seriously interested in what degree of graduation your profiles would have? So far my list would almost double the Police budget.
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Apr 8 2018, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 8 2018, 05:04 PM) What about an white older man in a boiler suit? I'm seriously interested in what degree of graduation your profiles would have? So far my list would almost double the Police budget. Your just being daft. An epidemic of black on black killings is taking place. Fine. Just ignore it for fear of being accused of racism.
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Apr 8 2018, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 8 2018, 05:11 PM) Your just being daft. An epidemic of black on black killings is taking place. Fine. Just ignore it for fear of being accused of racism. Err no, look at the ALL Police stats nationwide; just try some professional and dispassionate analysis.
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Apr 8 2018, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 8 2018, 07:12 PM) Err no, look at the ALL Police stats nationwide; just try some professional and dispassionate analysis. So black on black killings are not happening? What pray you suggest?
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Apr 9 2018, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Apr 8 2018, 09:37 PM) So black on black killings are not happening? What pray you suggest? No, I didn't say that. 'Black on black' killings are happening, at the same time, exactly similar and just as horrific crime waves are occurring in other places too. You only seem able to concern yourself with one specific problem. The violence in question is essentially a noticeable increase in gang warfare. In this specific case, the gangs are primarily black. However, as has been pointed out, other gangs are predominantly yellow, white or brown. For a long time, I've been helping to campaign against the front line Police, Administration of Justice and Punishment cuts which had previously been making some inroads to reducing the effects of these crimes. It's been a very serious issue for quite some time. On the other hand, you've chosen to notice the problem when black people are mentioned. Any reason for not noticing before?
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Apr 9 2018, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 9 2018, 07:32 AM) No, I didn't say that. 'Black on black' killings are happening, at the same time, exactly similar and just as horrific crime waves are occurring in other places too. You only seem able to concern yourself with one specific problem.
The violence in question is essentially a noticeable increase in gang warfare. In this specific case, the gangs are primarily black. However, as has been pointed out, other gangs are predominantly yellow, white or brown.
For a long time, I've been helping to campaign against the front line Police, Administration of Justice and Punishment cuts which had previously been making some inroads to reducing the effects of these crimes. It's been a very serious issue for quite some time.
On the other hand, you've chosen to notice the problem when black people are mentioned. Any reason for not noticing before? Newbury Today forum were dealing with the Muslims for a while but we’re back to blacks now. Normal service resumed.
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Apr 9 2018, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Apr 9 2018, 08:03 AM) Newbury Today forum were dealing with the Muslims for a while but we’re back to blacks now. Normal service resumed. Sad little troll, trying for another fight he can run away from. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
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