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SirWilliam
post Jan 5 2018, 09:24 PM
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I thought this was a joke headline till I actually read the piece .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-42570861

I would expect an average 6 year old to know what continent the larger countries are proper to , but it seems that our education system is quite happy to churn out would be media studies entrants who are clueless of the world they inhabit . angry.gif


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Andy Capp
post Jan 6 2018, 11:07 AM
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Almost as dumb as an individual who accepts examples of ignorance as proof of a failed education system. tongue.gif
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post Jan 6 2018, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 6 2018, 11:07 AM) *
Almost as dumb as an individual who accepts examples of ignorance as proof of a failed education system. tongue.gif


Is it not the raison d'être of the school to at least teach it's pupils basic knowledge ? I do accept that ignorance is somehow the fault of the individual because their ability is not as great as their contemporaries . By the age of 11 every child in the state education system should be able to handle simple mental and written mathematics without the use of a calculator , have a rudimentary knowledge of the past 1000 years of world history , be aware of the geographical structure of the planet and most important of all be able to read a work of fiction and able to digest the plot . Everything else is of superficial importance .
The Victorians , ( those much beloved by rabid tories and libtards alike ) , considered that the education of the masses would be detrimental to the stratification of the status quo and by concentrating on teaching the privileged few , leadership was preordained and the workers grateful for employment . Remember the Blair quote ? Well he failed to deliver , ( as in most things ) , as has the governments of both denominations who went before and have followed .
Maybe we , as a species , are intrinsically thick and therefore spending money on teaching us anything is a waste of resources ? Or we all have the ability to absorb information and the system should ensure that we succeed .
Me thinks the future is as unpredictable as a long range meteorological forecast but that doesn't mean we should ignore the facts.


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post Jan 7 2018, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 6 2018, 12:27 PM) *
Is it not the raison d'être of the school to at least teach it's pupils basic knowledge ? I do accept that ignorance is somehow the fault of the individual because their ability is not as great as their contemporaries . By the age of 11 every child in the state education system should be able to handle simple mental and written mathematics without the use of a calculator , have a rudimentary knowledge of the past 1000 years of world history , be aware of the geographical structure of the planet and most important of all be able to read a work of fiction and able to digest the plot . Everything else is of superficial importance .
The Victorians , ( those much beloved by rabid tories and libtards alike ) , considered that the education of the masses would be detrimental to the stratification of the status quo and by concentrating on teaching the privileged few , leadership was preordained and the workers grateful for employment . Remember the Blair quote ? Well he failed to deliver , ( as in most things ) , as has the governments of both denominations who went before and have followed .
Maybe we , as a species , are intrinsically thick and therefore spending money on teaching us anything is a waste of resources ? Or we all have the ability to absorb information and the system should ensure that we succeed .
Me thinks the future is as unpredictable as a long range meteorological forecast but that doesn't mean we should ignore the facts.

Who taught you to put a character space before a full-stop or question mark? wink.gif

The point I'm trying to make is to ask whether anecdotal examples of people's ignorance is proof of a failed education system; I don't think it is.

I suspect our education system is faulty, but not for that reason. Having a poor memory isn't necessarily the fault of an education. Just as not being numerate is proof either. Sadly, some of us are just simply lacking. Mine is spelling. With the best will in the world I just cannot spell. Not only that, my mental arithmetic is poor too. In my experience, the bias towards disciple probably affected my ability to learn. I saw it as a challenge and in my immaturity, I devoted more time to challenging that, than learning. I also resented the policy of shaming in class. I remember a number of people with certain learning difficulties being bullied in class.

I'm also not sure of the value of the received tuition of our history; the older I get, them more I realise a lot of it is propaganda.
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- SirWilliam   Education.......The way forward .   Jan 5 2018, 09:24 PM
- - Turin Machine   Ahh, the young. Bless em, experts on everything. ...   Jan 5 2018, 10:09 PM
- - On the edge   Can't help thinking that this is a long term p...   Jan 6 2018, 07:43 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 6 2018, 12:27 PM)...   Jan 6 2018, 01:03 PM
- - The Hatter   QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 5 2018, 09:24 PM)...   Jan 7 2018, 07:59 AM
|- - SirWilliam   QUOTE (The Hatter @ Jan 7 2018, 07:59 AM)...   Jan 7 2018, 10:00 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 7 2018, 10:00 AM)...   Jan 7 2018, 04:58 PM
- - SirWilliam   The popular consensus appears to propose that thin...   Jan 8 2018, 10:55 AM
- - Turin Machine   This might help. https://youtu.be/Sz0o9clVQu8   Jan 8 2018, 02:37 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 8 2018, 02:37 ...   Jan 8 2018, 05:52 PM
|- - SirWilliam   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 8 2018, 05:52 PM...   Jan 8 2018, 06:48 PM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 8 2018, 06:48 PM)...   Jan 8 2018, 07:09 PM
||- - On the edge   QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 8 2018, 06:48 PM)...   Jan 9 2018, 06:35 AM
||- - SirWilliam   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 9 2018, 06:35 AM...   Jan 9 2018, 11:06 AM
||- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 9 2018, 11:06 AM)...   Jan 9 2018, 01:28 PM
|||- - SirWilliam   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 9 2018, 01:28 PM) ...   Jan 9 2018, 02:29 PM
||- - Berkshirelad   QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 9 2018, 11:06 AM)...   Jan 9 2018, 06:52 PM
|- - Turin Machine   QUOTE (On the edge @ Jan 8 2018, 05:52 PM...   Jan 9 2018, 12:43 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 9 2018, 12:43 ...   Jan 9 2018, 06:31 AM
- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jan 9 2018, 02:29 PM)...   Jan 9 2018, 04:38 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jan 9 2018, 05:38 PM) ...   Jan 10 2018, 10:37 AM
- - Strafin   Or using the word simples at all!   Jan 10 2018, 02:04 PM
- - Biker1   QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 10 2018, 03:04 PM) O...   Jan 10 2018, 05:02 PM
- - Turin Machine   QUOTE (Strafin @ Jan 10 2018, 02:04 PM) O...   Jan 10 2018, 05:46 PM
- - newres   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jan 10 2018, 05:46...   Jan 11 2018, 06:17 AM
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