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Nov 23 2017, 07:54 AM
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Surely any anonymous response should have been dropped straight in the bin without even reading it? As for the others, they should have been published, with full details, just like any other, hiding them is not the answer. Only defamatory or otherwise considered illegal communications should have been withheld and those put before the Courts. I see this not necessarily an indictment against our society, more a significant failure in our education system, where we now have significant numbers unable to express themselves, let alone think, in a reasonable manner
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Nov 23 2017, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 23 2017, 07:54 AM) Surely any anonymous response should have been dropped straight in the bin without even reading it? As for the others, they should have been published, with full details, just like any other, hiding them is not the answer. Only defamatory or otherwise considered illegal communications should have been withheld and those put before the Courts. I see this not necessarily an indictment against our society, more a significant failure in our education system, where we now have significant numbers unable to express themselves, let alone think, in a reasonable manner Do you mean think in a manner that you find acceptable? People have the right to protest as long as it is legal. Protesting that the area does not have enough parking is not in any way a bad thing. I would suggest to you as well that most people would not want the establishment next door to them because it would be busy and noisy. Would you? And be honest...
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Nov 23 2017, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 23 2017, 10:03 AM) Do you mean think in a manner that you find acceptable? People have the right to protest as long as it is legal. Protesting that the area does not have enough parking is not in any way a bad thing.
I would suggest to you as well that most people would not want the establishment next door to them because it would be busy and noisy. Would you? And be honest... That's not the issue though. The issue is the language the objectors used.
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Nov 23 2017, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 23 2017, 12:06 PM) That's not the issue though. The issue is the language the objectors used. But we don't know what was written though. People find the strangest things to get upset about, point in question, headteachers have been told not to call female pupils 'girls' or 'ladies' as it might cause anxiety. Seriously?
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Nov 23 2017, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 23 2017, 10:39 PM) But we don't know what was written though. People find the strangest things to get upset about, point in question, headteachers have been told not to call female pupils 'girls' or 'ladies' as it might cause anxiety. Seriously? Femiphobe. I just made a new word up... Or I thought I had.. Not heard it before but it is a word.
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Nov 23 2017, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 23 2017, 11:29 PM) Femiphobe. I just made a new word up... Or I thought I had.. Not heard it before but it is a word. You're actually thinking of genderphobia, it's a new Libtard cause.
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Nov 24 2017, 05:19 AM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Nov 23 2017, 11:41 PM) You're actually thinking of genderphobia, it's a new Libtard cause. Although it’s the right wing that have been scientifically shown to be thick so perhaps it should be reactard.
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Nov 24 2017, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 24 2017, 07:19 AM) Although it’s the right wing that have been scientifically shown to be thick so perhaps it should be reactard. Could you direct us to that enlightening piece of research please? Particularly interested to see if it uses the word "thick". Thanks.
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Nov 24 2017, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 24 2017, 06:12 AM) Could you direct us to that enlightening piece of research please? Particularly interested to see if it uses the word "thick". Thanks. It’s called a synonym. Google it.
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Nov 24 2017, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 24 2017, 08:17 AM) It’s called a synonym. Google it. Ah, I see. So the research you refer to doesn't use the term "thick" it's just a synonym you decided to use. Again, can you direct us to this piece of research so we can adopt our own synonyms to use with it. Thanks.
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Nov 24 2017, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 24 2017, 03:21 PM) Ah, I see. So the research you refer to doesn't use the term "thick" it's just a synonym you decided to use. Again, can you direct us to this piece of research so we can adopt our own synonyms to use with it. Thanks. Even your own newspaper says you lot aren't very bright. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/art...ple-racist.html
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Nov 25 2017, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 24 2017, 07:17 PM) Oh, look what I found! https://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/iqpolitics.aspStudies and research eh? You can google anything these day!!
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Nov 25 2017, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 25 2017, 06:38 AM) Oh, look what I found! https://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/iqpolitics.aspStudies and research eh? You can google anything these day!! Yes, even reports on fictitious studies! It looks like the forum yobs have a hangover! 😋
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Nov 25 2017, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 25 2017, 07:50 AM) Yes, even reports on fictitious studies!
It looks like the forum yobs have a hangover! 😋 At least it had the decency to tell the reader it was pseudo science, just to avoid confusion amongst the rest of the flat earth society and liberal readership.
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Nov 25 2017, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Nov 25 2017, 09:21 AM) At least it had the decency to tell the reader it was pseudo science, just to avoid confusion amongst the rest of the flat earth society and liberal readership. Pseudoscience is the missuse of science, the article appears to be simple satire and fiction, perhaps as a retaliation by right-wingers being accused of lacking certain skills others take for granted.
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Nov 25 2017, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 25 2017, 11:04 AM) Pseudoscience is the missuse of science, the article appears to be simple satire and fiction, perhaps as a retaliation by right-wingers being accused of lacking certain skills others take for granted. "Certain skills others take for granted"? Care to elaborate? I'd love to know why newres thinks he is more intelligent than the likes of je suis and me (without resorting to google)...
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Nov 25 2017, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 25 2017, 03:45 PM) "Certain skills others take for granted"? Care to elaborate? I'd love to know why newres thinks he is more intelligent than the likes of je suis and me (without resorting to google)... I think more open minded and fair minded. Above, rather than accepting that many objections would have been racist and full of hate and condemning it, your response was more or less can you blame them and it’s all probably exaggerated.,
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Nov 25 2017, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 25 2017, 04:47 PM) I think more open minded and fair minded. Above, rather than accepting that many objections would have been racist and full of hate and condemning it, your response was more or less can you blame them and it’s all probably exaggerated., You are the least "open minded" person on this forum. My way or the highway with you... 👎
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Nov 26 2017, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 25 2017, 10:45 PM) You are the least "open minded" person on this forum. My way or the highway with you... 👎 Not sure about that. I am tolerant indeed open minded about everything except intolerance. So for example whilst I think Muslims that drive vehicles into innocents walking on Westminster Bridge are bad, I don’t arrive at the conclusion that ALL Muslims are bad or that their religion makes them bad. Equally I understand why unfettered support of Israel and widespread slaughter of innocents by drone attacks radicalises some Muslims and leads them to murder here. Is that not open and fair minded?
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Nov 26 2017, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 26 2017, 10:50 AM) Not sure about that. I am tolerant indeed open minded about everything except intolerance. So for example whilst I think Muslims that drive vehicles into innocents walking on Westminster Bridge are bad, I don’t arrive at the conclusion that ALL Muslims are bad or that their religion makes them bad. Equally I understand why unfettered support of Israel and widespread slaughter of innocents by drone attacks radicalises some Muslims and leads them to murder here. Is that not open and fair minded? So to sum up. Muslim Murderer... I understand... I feel yoir pain. White right wing murderer... Scum.. In my view both are as bad as each other. No excuses.
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Nov 26 2017, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 26 2017, 11:05 AM) So to sum up. Muslim Murderer... I understand... I feel yoir pain. White right wing murderer... Scum..
In my view both are as bad as each other. No excuses. How can that be to “sum up” when you’re including things I never mentioned?
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Nov 26 2017, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 26 2017, 01:29 PM) How can that be to “sum up” when you’re including things I never mentioned? So do you "understand" why evil right wing extremists like Thomas Mair commit atrocities? In the same way that you understand the muslim extremist mentality? I'm just interested.
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Nov 26 2017, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 26 2017, 01:44 PM) So do you "understand" why evil right wing extremists like Thomas Mair commit atrocities? In the same way that you understand the muslim extremist mentality? I'm just interested. No, I have no understanding why someone should kill an MP in support of Brexit. Do you?
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Nov 26 2017, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 26 2017, 02:25 PM) No, I have no understanding why someone should kill an MP in support of Brexit. Do you? No. Though I have no understanding why muslim terrorists kill innocent people either. Thats where we differ. Both are equal crimes in my opinion.
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Nov 26 2017, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Nov 26 2017, 02:35 PM) No. Though I have no understanding why muslim terrorists kill innocent people either. Thats where we differ. Both are equal crimes in my opinion. So invasion and mass slaughter in no way explain why some people because me radicalised? That’s exactly why you aren’t open minded! I can’t understand how anyone could kill, but I’d say a reaction to the above is more reason that a democratic vote on Brexit.
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Nov 26 2017, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 26 2017, 03:51 PM) So invasion and mass slaughter in no way explain why some people because me radicalised? That’s exactly why you aren’t open minded!
I can’t understand how anyone could kill, but I’d say a reaction to the above is more reason that a democratic vote on Brexit. So I guess when Muslim terrorists commit mass slaughter you should expect indigenous people where the slaughter is commited to also become radicalised? And we should understand? Same logic.
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