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Animals don't feel pain., a Brexit bonus to free us of EU red tape |
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Nov 24 2017, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 24 2017, 08:06 AM) How is this relevant to the topic? This seems to be about the failure of the EU to police its laws, not whether we should adopt an EU law. Exactly . One may argue that it is illegal to murder your neighbour but that doesn't prevent it happening . Unless we are prepared to police any legislation we introduce then what is the point of having it ? In order to actually prevent animal cruelty we need to have the will to prosecute all those who commit it . Then of course one man's perception of cruelty is different to the next . Which is worse , transporting a lamb 70 miles for over an hour in a cramped lorry to the slaughterhouse , or being strung up by it's hind leg and having it's throat cut in a process that make take only 2 minutes ? One may well argue that both cause unnecessary suffering but one is committed in the name of religious tolerance and the other because of our obsession with food "safety" . On the position of BSE , ( which lead to the closure of local abattoirs ) , this was a genuine case of politicians losing the plot . Quite happy to import meat from an "unregulated" European market but obsessed with forcing our own producers into an over regulated quagmire . I doubt we will ever please all of the people but it would be nice to think that all interested parties can formulate a common consensus .
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