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Nov 20 2017, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 20 2017, 11:08 AM) It's interesting to note that an element of society consider it perfectly acceptable to break the law , vis a vis speeding , making light of their punishment , yet become apoplectic over a "non pc" remark . The law is the law , contravening it is , in my book , unacceptable . In my case my indiscretion was accidental, often what people say is deliberate. I also disgree that breaking the law is always unacceptable, especially if the law is ‘unacceptable’.
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Nov 20 2017, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Nov 20 2017, 04:52 PM) In my case my indiscretion was accidental, often what people say is deliberate. I also disgree that breaking the law is always unacceptable, especially if the law is ‘unacceptable’. Which laws are 'unacceptable' in your book?
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Nov 20 2017, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Nov 20 2017, 04:39 PM) Which laws are 'unacceptable' in your book? Maybe the ones that he has "contravened". If you don't accept the laws of a Country then either lobby for Parliamentary change or live somewhere else .
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Nov 21 2017, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 20 2017, 06:10 PM) Maybe the ones that he has "contravened". If you don't accept the laws of a Country then either lobby for Parliamentary change or live somewhere else . I wouldn’t say unacceptable but I do think a 70mph speed limit is daft often. I also think it should be open season on middle lane huggers. I confess to never driving under 85/90 on motorways when able. My record speeding offence is 104 on the A34. No ban.
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Nov 21 2017, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Nov 21 2017, 07:47 AM) I wouldn’t say unacceptable but I do think a 70mph speed limit is daft often. I also think it should be open season on middle lane huggers. I confess to never driving under 85/90 on motorways when able.
My record speeding offence is 104 on the A34. No ban. We all agree that one driver may safely be in control at speeds in excess of the limit while the next is dangerous at 50 mph., but raising the limit gives only a green light to the bad as opposed to exonerating the competent . Instead of wasting money on "driverless " technology , would it not be sensible to have onboard monitors which would record the ability of the driver at the time as opposed to a thick red line which , as you freely admit , is mainly ignored ?
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Nov 21 2017, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Nov 21 2017, 09:24 AM) We all agree that one driver may safely be in control at speeds in excess of the limit while the next is dangerous at 50 mph., but raising the limit gives only a green light to the bad as opposed to exonerating the competent . Instead of wasting money on "driverless " technology , would it not be sensible to have onboard monitors which would record the ability of the driver at the time as opposed to a thick red line which , as you freely admit , is mainly ignored ? Already here, most large fleet operators use them to the chagrin of their drivers! For high end vehicles this technology also locks into theft tracking etc. However, the 'Clarkson Tendancy ' keeps it commercially limited. In any event, I'm not sure I'd like Newres insurance bill! (It's likely to be this sector pushing for greater adoption)
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Nov 21 2017, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 21 2017, 11:45 AM) Already here, most large fleet operators use them to the chagrin of their drivers! For high end vehicles this technology also locks into theft tracking etc. However, the 'Clarkson Tendancy ' keeps it commercially limited.
In any event, I'm not sure I'd like Newres insurance bill! (It's likely to be this sector pushing for greater adoption) From a lay perspective I consider the average car driver a great deal more dangerous than an HGV operator , indeed one of the major causes of accidents are drivers not being aware that a lorry is not going to overtake as quickly as an Audi A3 . Now we can argue ad infinitum about HGV overtaking procedure but the reality is that they are as entitled to drive at a speed that conditions dictate as the euro hatchback owner that believes it is somehow privileged .
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