Cheap labour post Brexit Options

[newres]

We stayed in a hotel in Bristol overnight and most of the staff were white non UK citizens. It occurred to me that if we opted out of the freedom of movement would we get that labour from the commonwealth and I wondered how the "take back control" folk would feel about that?

[Mr Brown]

So far, no one has factored in what Mark Carney Governor of the Bank of England said a few weeks back; technology will be taking over vast numbers of low level jobs very quickly now. He's concerned that the number of jobs avaliable will be hugely reduced and as a consequence unemployment will again become the main issue. We shouldn't worry about immigrants; they'll be off. So, nothing to do with Brexit, just the onward march of technology.

As if to underline this, albeit using existing methods and processes, Sainsbury's have made a start. Centralised and automated functions replacing a large number of jobs.

[SirWilliam]

So far, no one has factored in what Mark Carney Governor of the Bank of England said a few weeks back; technology will be taking over vast numbers of low level jobs very quickly now. He's concerned that the number of jobs avaliable will be hugely reduced and as a consequence unemployment will again become the main issue. We shouldn't worry about immigrants; they'll be off. So, nothing to do with Brexit, just the onward march of technology.

As if to underline this, albeit using existing methods and processes, Sainsbury's have made a start. Centralised and automated functions replacing a large number of jobs.

Those with the work ethic will , undoubtedly , be off to pastures new . The problem is those who have neither the drive nor Country to return to will find themselves in our social welfare system . Rather debatable as to how much technology will change the working environment , supermarket checkouts yes , house builders no . All about the Country , ( wherever it is ) , being able to support it's population . Once an area becomes overpopulated in terms of people equal to the number of houses/jobs/medical facilities etc then cracks start to appear . Then the nationalists raise their banner and off we go again . History repeats and continues to do so .

[Mr Brown]

Those with the work ethic will , undoubtedly , be off to pastures new . The problem is those who have neither the drive nor Country to return to will find themselves in our social welfare system . Rather debatable as to how much technology will change the working environment , supermarket checkouts yes , house builders no . All about the Country , ( wherever it is ) , being able to support it's population . Once an area becomes overpopulated in terms of people equal to the number of houses/jobs/medical facilities etc then cracks start to appear . Then the nationalists raise their banner and off we go again . History repeats and continues to do so .

Having worked in various other countries, the U.K. welfare system, though undoubtedly good, is not the big magnet many think it to be. The biggest draw is language, English; simply because of the Americanisation of the west. If you just want looking after, Germany is the place to go. Ironically, immigrants are necessarily those with the 'get up and go' who move on looking for a better life, in terms of more money, not doles. So, they are likely to be the first out. For those without drive or initiative, though this hurts, look at the indigenous disaffected youth.

Most of us think technological change as computers, iPhones and the like. It's consequence though is far greater. Not only office / retail / administration but every aspect of life. One very small example; the advent of plastic plumbing. This gives building developers the opportunity to de-skill and make much faster traditional metal plumbing tasks. Simplistically, iPhone instructions tell the operator what to do and the stuff to do it is easily transported, cut and fixed with no specialist training or tools. Job done faster with much cheaper labour and that's just one very small example.

History indeed repeats itself; exactly what happened as the industrial revolution developed.

[Biker1]

the U.K. welfare system, though undoubtedly good, is not the big magnet many think it to be.

Yes it is!

The biggest draw is language,

So all those waiting in Calais and now Bilbao who have travelled through several friendly countries are trying to get here because we speak the preferred language of English?