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Oct 14 2017, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Oct 14 2017, 03:42 PM) The bosses might end up being paid fairer wages too which will reduce prices. I think the biggest problem will be with nurses and doctors. No one is worried about where people come from if they are here doing a job. I don't think that's right. I haven't seen figures but I doubt many here under freedom of movement are unemployed.
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Oct 14 2017, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 14 2017, 04:40 PM) I don't think that's right. I haven't seen figures but I doubt many here under freedom of movement are unemployed. There was a late news programme about it recently. We haven't been training anywhere near enough people for the NHS for a long time due to cuts and a bad way of training. They also said we have relied on NHS staff from the Cimmonwealth since the 1960s.
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Oct 14 2017, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (The Hatter @ Oct 14 2017, 05:55 PM) There was a late news programme about it recently. We haven't been training anywhere near enough people for the NHS for a long time due to cuts and a bad way of training. They also said we have relied on NHS staff from the Cimmonwealth since the 1960s. The point is that we need the immigrants here. We don't have unemployment so we won't be able to fill the jobs if we stop EU citizens coming. That will mean more immigration from the commonwealth. In other words more brown faces. Not what Farage had in mind.
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Oct 17 2017, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 16 2017, 03:59 PM) Unemployment is 4.3%. Yes 1.484 Million! Published in what is probably your favourite rag! Plus, please note, the figure falls again post Brexit vote !! QUOTE (newres @ Oct 16 2017, 03:59 PM) Besides there's over 2m EU citizens working here. Wow, frightening!
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Oct 17 2017, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 17 2017, 09:14 AM) Yes 1.484 Million! Published in what is probably your favourite rag! Plus, please note, the figure falls again post Brexit vote !! Wow, frightening! If they all leave we are going to have a dire labour shortage. Ofcourse the point is that one way or another immigration will stay the same.
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Oct 17 2017, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 17 2017, 01:15 PM) If they all leave we are going to have a dire labour shortage. Ofcourse the point is that one way or another immigration will stay the same. Why ? The yoof's of our inner cities are endeavouring to fill the gap as we speak . Obviously it will take a year or two before they are old enough to enter the work place . Seriously though , when the labour force numbers drop those left will benefit through the supply and demand principal . If that 1.5 million drawers of unemployment payment enter the workplace then everyone benefits . Low pay is better than no pay .
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Oct 17 2017, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Oct 17 2017, 02:58 PM) Why ? The yoof's of our inner cities are endeavouring to fill the gap as we speak . Obviously it will take a year or two before they are old enough to enter the work place . Seriously though , when the labour force numbers drop those left will benefit through the supply and demand principal . If that 1.5 million drawers of unemployment payment enter the workplace then everyone benefits . Low pay is better than no pay . That figure is illusory. Many of those will be "between" jobs and many will be long term unemployed. There isn't actually a pool of 1.5 million waiting. Effectively we have full employment. Difficult though it is for you folk to grasp.
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Oct 17 2017, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 17 2017, 05:54 PM) That figure is illusory. Many of those will be "between" jobs and many will be long term unemployed. There isn't actually a pool of 1.5 million waiting. Effectively we have full employment. Difficult though it is for you folk to grasp. Next time I visit Liverpool I will show them your post . No doubt they will be so impressed they may even let me leave unmolested .
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Oct 18 2017, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Oct 17 2017, 07:47 PM) 😂 Some are so anti brexit its akin to a religion. I see the good old Austrians are deviating back to the norm. And Poland and Hungary are not happy. And the French President is already unpopular. And Merkel has a much reduced power base. Oh and the Spanish now have "political prisoners". Better ban spanish wine and fruit methinks. Oh and only go on holiday to Catalonia. After all, its the right thing to do.😂 The world needs deviant Austrians , Sometimes I think it is best just to take an ambivalent view on the whole thing in the knowledge that life , hopefully , goes on . I still stand by my take that the European Union in it's present and proposed federalist future will not exist in 20 years time . ( Doubt I will either ) We will trade with those who have / want what we need / market and ignore the rest . It is the nanny state syndrome that is tying us to the status quo . Bit like trying to wean a petulant child off the maternal breast , the longer it goes on the less inclined they are to adapt to proper food . Personally I wouldn't holiday anywhere that I wasn't welcomed , and that is most of world .
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Oct 18 2017, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Oct 18 2017, 10:59 AM) The world needs deviant Austrians , Sometimes I think it is best just to take an ambivalent view on the whole thing in the knowledge that life , hopefully , goes on . I still stand by my take that the European Union in it's present and proposed federalist future will not exist in 20 years time . ( Doubt I will either ) We will trade with those who have / want what we need / market and ignore the rest . It is the nanny state syndrome that is tying us to the status quo . Bit like trying to wean a petulant child off the maternal breast , the longer it goes on the less inclined they are to adapt to proper food . Personally I wouldn't holiday anywhere that I wasn't welcomed , and that is most of world . Without wishing to stereotype, judging by your views you won't be around in 20 years to find out whether you were right! Unemployment today at its lowest for 40 years. Where are we going to get 2m people from to replace the EU citizens?
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Oct 18 2017, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (newres @ Oct 18 2017, 12:44 PM) Unemployment today at its lowest for 40 years. Where are we going to get 2m people from to replace the EU citizens? Economist yesterday explaining why wages are low said that its because productivity is so low. So, work harder boys, get better wages and, we won't NEED so many workers. Not rocket science.
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Oct 18 2017, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Oct 18 2017, 03:13 PM) Economist yesterday explaining why wages are low said that its because productivity is so low. So, work harder boys, get better wages and, we won't NEED so many workers. Not rocket science. If you need proof of that viewpoint have you ever observed road workers ? One man digs/repairs the hole , two observe from a respectable distance and the foreman has a mobile glued to his ear . Now before the highways agency employees declare a fatwa on my life I am sure the same applies to other disciplines . Someone , can't recall who , the other day cited the British worker as lazy compared with their European contemporaries .Now that is a simplistic statement as those who are willing to trek over half a continent to earn a living are hardly likely to be slouches but it does ask a few searching questions of the British ethos .
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