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SirWilliam
post Sep 18 2017, 11:08 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41281570

This is not a rant , more an incandescent meltdown . All through the EU referendum the Europhiles cited animal welfare as one of the "positives" of membership . Bloody well looks like it . We have known for a long time that the Europeans have a more cavalier attitude to suffering than the Brits but reassured that legislation was in place to minimise the effects of modern farming .
I appreciate that these incidents tend to involve transport from the East of the area as opposed to UK but that is immaterial to the animal concerned . Incidentally it is almost certain that any animal that perishes in transit will end up on someone's plate , ( read tourist) , as it is apparent there is little in place to prevent it .
If nothing else , Brexit will , ( hopefully ) , stop the export of livestock for the food market . Politicians of both sides of the divide were responsible for the closure of local abattoirs 20 odd years ago ,so even in this Country animals may be 2 or 3 hours in transit before joining the production line of a "modern" slaughterhouse .

Pity no one from EU is on this forum as they could put pen to paper and justify their Countries position . angry.gif


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Andy Capp
post Sep 19 2017, 11:25 AM
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Stop eating so much meat would be a start.
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post Sep 19 2017, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 19 2017, 12:25 PM) *
Stop eating so much meat would be a start.


Have you ever stopped to think how much meat is produced for the pet trade ? Every dog , cat , reptile, fish, etc eats meat . It is estimated that the UK pet population is around 54 million and apart from the odd stick insect they are all omnivorous .
Now if you choose to be vegetarian then that's fine but to impose such a diet on Fido is as inhumane as the process we are discussing .

As far as this topic being aired before , I make no apologies for raising it again . Some things are far to important to overlook as visited before . angry.gif


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post Sep 19 2017, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Sep 19 2017, 01:07 PM) *
Have you ever stopped to think how much meat is produced for the pet trade ? Every dog , cat , reptile, fish, etc eats meat . It is estimated that the UK pet population is around 54 million and apart from the odd stick insect they are all omnivorous .
Now if you choose to be vegetarian then that's fine but to impose such a diet on Fido is as inhumane as the process we are discussing .

As far as this topic being aired before , I make no apologies for raising it again . Some things are far to important to overlook as visited before . angry.gif

And then there's the impact t on the countryside.


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post Sep 19 2017, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 19 2017, 01:46 PM) *
And then there's the impact t on the countryside.


Little doubt man's impact will be chronicled by whatever species supersedes him . Just maybe a similar lifestyle was practiced by the dinosaurs before they succumbed to the Chicxulub impact . In other words when a species becomes over complacent it is on a one way ticket to oblivion despite it's numerical superiority .

Bit off topic admittedly but the whole life and death cycle is far more complex than the movement of carbon-hydrogen bonds from one form to another .


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- SirWilliam   Animal welfare ( as an example of an oxymoron ? )   Sep 18 2017, 11:08 AM
- - Turin Machine   I signed a petition on behalf of the equine societ...   Sep 18 2017, 02:17 PM
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