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Jun 15 2017, 01:07 PM
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A bit like today, may visits a disaster scene I private, no camera no media, JC arrived with retinue, full on media scrum, full exposure. "Ooh, a disaster, time to win some political advantage, Diane! Round up the posse!"
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Jun 15 2017, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 15 2017, 02:07 PM) A bit like today, may visits a disaster scene I private, no camera no media, JC arrived with retinue, full on media scrum, full exposure. "Ooh, a disaster, time to win some political advantage, Diane! Round up the posse!" I guess May is feeling a bit vulnerable, seeing as it is her party that is starving public services.
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Jun 15 2017, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 15 2017, 06:08 PM) I guess May is feeling a bit vulnerable, seeing as it is her party that is starving public services. Except, by their own admission that borough is rolling in it. Does not compute Will Robinson!
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Jun 15 2017, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 15 2017, 07:04 PM) Except, by their own admission that borough is rolling in it. Does not compute Will Robinson! Rolling in it doesn't mean it is spent wisely; however, whether or not it is because of social neglect, the fact remains she will be feeling contrite right now. I see she was too scared to meet residents today. So it does compute.
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Jun 15 2017, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 15 2017, 07:45 PM) Rolling in it doesn't mean it is spent wisely; however, whether or not it is because of social neglect, the fact remains she will be feeling contrite right now. I see she was too scared to meet residents today.
So it does compute. Just give everyone a 5 bedroom house, wherever they want ro live. Simples. Surprised JC hasn't promised it... Yet..
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Jun 15 2017, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 15 2017, 07:48 PM) Just give everyone a 5 bedroom house, wherever they want ro live. Simples. Surprised JC hasn't promised it... Yet.. Perhaps we could see money spent on things that can protect people from dangerous environments first.
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Jun 15 2017, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 15 2017, 08:40 PM) Perhaps we could see money spent on things that can protect people from dangerous environments first. Would you support the demolition of all these 70s tower blocks? I agree that they are dangerous eyesores. Where would you put the thousands of people though? They would have to be relocated from places like Kensington and they would resist. Not that I blame them for that. It is home to them. I don't have an answer and I doubt even JC does unlesss he landgrabs from the rich.
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Jun 15 2017, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 15 2017, 09:24 PM) Would you support the demolition of all these 70s tower blocks? I agree that they are dangerous eyesores. Where would you put the thousands of people though? They would have to be relocated from places like Kensington and they would resist. Not that I blame them for that. It is home to them. I don't have an answer and I doubt even JC does unlesss he landgrabs from the rich. Dangerous yes, but eyesore is a trivial concern. It is too early to say, but it looks like people needn't have died for the sake of poor building control and regulations. If the reports are true, it seems fire alarms didn't work and an inferior building material was used; however, we will need to wait for the report. In a country like this I find it incredible something like this can happen. It's third world stuff.
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Jun 15 2017, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 15 2017, 10:49 PM) Dangerous yes, but eyesore is a trivial concern. It is too early to say, but it looks like people needn't have died for the sake of poor building control and regulations. 100+ people by all accounts. Why not be truthful? If people lived there and have not been seen since then they are gone. Landlords should NOT be voting on any laws in parliament to do with building or fire regulations in Parliament. Conflict of interest. Would not be allowed in the Corporate world. Change is needed. But blame of individuals is dangerous. People are looking for individuals to take anger out on. It's the system that is broken. Fix that first and then look to see if any blame should be assigned.
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Jun 17 2017, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 15 2017, 11:05 PM) 100+ people by all accounts. Why not be truthful? If people lived there and have not been seen since then they are gone. Landlords should NOT be voting on any laws in parliament to do with building or fire regulations in Parliament. Conflict of interest. Would not be allowed in the Corporate world. Change is needed. But blame of individuals is dangerous. People are looking for individuals to take anger out on. It's the system that is broken. Fix that first and then look to see if any blame should be assigned. The authrorities need to update the figures. I have seen figures banded about of 350.
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Jun 17 2017, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 17 2017, 01:55 PM) The authrorities need to update the figures. I have seen figures banded about of 350. They simply don't know yet. It would be almost impossible to guess until a search of the whole place was done. The intense heat meant some bodies would have been incinerated. Equally, given the number of flats, it's going to be hard to account for casual visitors. Frankly, 'the authorities' have more pressing things to do than confirm numbers with pinpoint accuracy - simply expect many more.
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