Welcome to Newburytoday.co.uk’s message boards where you can have your say and share your views on any number of issues.
Anyone can read messages, but only registered users can post messages, reply to messages or create new topics. As part of the free and simple registration, you will be asked to read and conform to the house rules.
To register, click here ……Enjoy the debate. Newbury Today Forum > Categories > Newbury News
Benyon: repeal the hunting act to reduce fox's suffering |
|
|
|
|
Replies
|
Jun 11 2017, 02:27 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 1,468
Joined: 6-March 14
From: West Berks
Member No.: 10,341
|
As far as the animal is concerned it matters not one jot who's name it is killed in , death is death . To place one furry creature in the "protect me " box whilst turning a blind eye to the welfare of his cousin seems a little hypocritical . To answer those who think the farming community condones the barbarism of the halal slaughterhouse shows how out of touch with reality the average town dweller is . We breed animals for food because we are too damned lazy to go hunting . Vegetarians apart , we are omnivorous as a species and therefore require alarming quantities of protein in the form of meat . The quality of the finished article is directly proportional to the welfare it receives in it's live state and that is only achieved by selfish husbandry , which in turn demands an element of compassion . To then see their hard work simply suffer at the hands of those to ignorant to know different is plainly unacceptable , but outside their control . Ever wondered where all the songbirds have gone ? Blame the farmer , blame johnny foreigner on the banks of the Mediterranean with his shotgun , even the EU referendum result but how many look at the family cat who has spent the night raiding the surrounding gardens ? The whole planet is one massive feeding machine and will continue to be so long after we , as a species , have gone the way of the dinosaur .
--------------------
Si non prius succederent.......... relinquere
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 11 2017, 02:38 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98
|
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 11 2017, 03:27 PM) As far as the animal is concerned it matters not one jot who's name it is killed in , death is death . To place one furry creature in the "protect me " box whilst turning a blind eye to the welfare of his cousin seems a little hypocritical . To answer those who think the farming community condones the barbarism of the halal slaughterhouse shows how out of touch with reality the average town dweller is . We breed animals for food because we are too damned lazy to go hunting . Vegetarians apart , we are omnivorous as a species and therefore require alarming quantities of protein in the form of meat . The quality of the finished article is directly proportional to the welfare it receives in it's live state and that is only achieved by selfish husbandry , which in turn demands an element of compassion . To then see their hard work simply suffer at the hands of those to ignorant to know different is plainly unacceptable , but outside their control . Ever wondered where all the songbirds have gone ? Blame the farmer , blame johnny foreigner on the banks of the Mediterranean with his shotgun , even the EU referendum result but how many look at the family cat who has spent the night raiding the surrounding gardens ? The whole planet is one massive feeding machine and will continue to be so long after we , as a species , have gone the way of the dinosaur . So then, this justifies cruelty when it is in their control. I don't think we are too lazy to go hunting for food anymore than we are too lazy to build bourbon cars to go driving! In fact, probably a majority, have no big issue with anyone hunting for food. Just to spell it out, it's hunting for fun that's the issue.
--------------------
Know your place!
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 11 2017, 02:43 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 2,597
Joined: 10-January 15
Member No.: 10,530
|
QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 11 2017, 03:38 PM) So then, this justifies cruelty when it is in their control.
I don't think we are too lazy to go hunting for food anymore than we are too lazy to build bourbon cars to go driving! In fact, probably a majority, have no big issue with anyone hunting for food. Just to spell it out, it's hunting for fun that's the issue. What's a bourbon car? Sounds delicious, is it a special labour thing? Like "this lane reserved for bourbons only". What will the French say? So many questions, so few answers.
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 11 2017, 04:50 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98
|
QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 11 2017, 03:43 PM) What's a bourbon car? Sounds delicious, is it a special labour thing? Like "this lane reserved for bourbons only". What will the French say? So many questions, so few answers. Absolutley! Sadly a rather simple answer, just the wretched automatic checker coming up with 'bourbon' for 'our own'. (I suppose it's a result of Tory cuts to our education system, degraded to the point where US giant, Microsoft think we can't be trusted to write on our own! )
--------------------
Know your place!
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 11 2017, 05:13 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 1,468
Joined: 6-March 14
From: West Berks
Member No.: 10,341
|
(I suppose it's a result of Tory cuts to our education system, degraded to the point where US giant, Microsoft think we can't be trusted to write on our own! ) [/quote] Conspiracy theory leads one to conclude that if we educate the masses to a level that encompasses simple spelling then they are more likely to question such heady topics as :- why are politicians allowed to breed let alone run a Country ?
--------------------
Si non prius succederent.......... relinquere
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 11 2017, 05:56 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98
|
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 11 2017, 06:13 PM) (I suppose it's a result of Tory cuts to our education system, degraded to the point where US giant, Microsoft think we can't be trusted to write on our own! ) Conspiracy theory leads one to conclude that if we educate the masses to a level that encompasses simple spelling then they are more likely to question such heady topics as :- why are politicians allowed to breed let alone run a Country ? Well, that might seem odd, but politicians don't run the Country. The country is actually run by the Prime Minister wholly on her own, helped only by stroppy PA and a Graduate researcher. Everything is her decision and responsibility, no one else is involved. NOTE ironically, there have been a lot of media reports, including on the BBC where politicians, particularly sensible Tory ones' are saying this.
--------------------
Know your place!
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 11 2017, 06:30 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 1,468
Joined: 6-March 14
From: West Berks
Member No.: 10,341
|
QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 11 2017, 06:56 PM) Well, that might seem odd, but politicians don't run the Country. The country is actually run by the Prime Minister wholly on her own, helped only by stroppy PA and a Graduate researcher. Everything is her decision and responsibility, no one else is involved.
NOTE ironically, there have been a lot of media reports, including on the BBC where politicians, particularly sensible Tory ones' are saying this. I stand corrected . One learns something new on an almost daily basis . Thank you for the enlightenment .
--------------------
Si non prius succederent.......... relinquere
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 11 2017, 08:24 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 7,847
Joined: 23-May 09
From: Newbury
Member No.: 98
|
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 11 2017, 07:30 PM) I stand corrected . One learns something new on an almost daily basis . Thank you for the enlightenment . Yes, I think we've all learned something about the state of the governing political party at the moment, but that's exactly as its being portrayed. It beggars belief that this large group of apparently intelligent and assertive individuals could have idly stood by and watched this preventable disaster, certainly for the Country, happen. So, given this, does anyone still believe these unprincpled, self centred, graspers are fit to run the Country anyway?
--------------------
Know your place!
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 11 2017, 08:51 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 2,682
Joined: 23-September 10
From: In the lower 40
Member No.: 1,104
|
QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 11 2017, 09:24 PM) Yes, I think we've all learned something about the state of the governing political party at the moment, but that's exactly as its being portrayed.
It beggars belief that this large group of apparently intelligent and assertive individuals could have idly stood by and watched this preventable disaster, certainly for the Country, happen.
So, given this, does anyone still believe these unprincpled, self centred, graspers are fit to run the Country anyway? Who? Labour? Deffo not.
--------------------
Gammon. And proud!
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 12 2017, 04:14 PM
|
Advanced Member
Group: Members
Posts: 2,674
Joined: 27-November 12
Member No.: 8,961
|
QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 11 2017, 09:51 PM) Who? Labour? Deffo not. I genuinely believe Labour would do a better job at the moment. I don't trust them on the economy, in particular their polarised view of employer/employee. Employers bad, employees good, but I reckon even with that, they will do less damage than May will with her Brexit stance. I met a lady of 82 today who's voted Conservative all her life but voted Lib dem last week because of Brexit.
|
|
|
|
Posts in this topic
Andy Capp Benyon: repeal the hunting act to reduce fox's suffering Jun 7 2017, 06:26 AM newres QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 7 2017, 07:26 AM) ... Jun 7 2017, 07:05 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (newres @ Jun 7 2017, 08:05 AM) Agr... Jun 7 2017, 07:47 AM gel No doubt like Cameron he's fully paid up membe... Jun 7 2017, 07:39 AM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 7 2017, 07:26 AM) ... Jun 7 2017, 07:22 PM Andy Capp Voting Lib Dem. I don't like them, but I am n... Jun 7 2017, 08:13 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 7 2017, 09:13 PM) ... Jun 7 2017, 08:25 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 7 2017, 09:13 PM) ... Jun 7 2017, 09:01 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Jun 7 2017, 10:01 PM... Jun 7 2017, 09:56 PM je suis Charlie Fox and chips, wonder if I can hunt them using a r... Jun 7 2017, 10:31 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 7 2017, 11:3... Jun 7 2017, 10:37 PM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 7 2017, 11:37 PM) ... Jun 7 2017, 10:43 PM x2lls QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 7 2017, 11:4... Jun 8 2017, 01:10 AM Berkshirelad QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 7 2017, 11:4... Jun 8 2017, 09:01 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Jun 8 2017, 10:01 A... Jun 8 2017, 09:29 AM newres QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 8 2017, 10:2... Jun 8 2017, 10:36 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (newres @ Jun 8 2017, 11:36 AM) Wit... Jun 8 2017, 10:41 AM Berkshirelad QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 8 2017, 10:2... Jun 9 2017, 12:22 PM Turin Machine QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Jun 9 2017, 01:22 P... Jun 9 2017, 12:47 PM newres QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 9 2017, 01:47 ... Jun 9 2017, 03:22 PM Turin Machine QUOTE (newres @ Jun 9 2017, 04:22 PM) He ... Jun 9 2017, 03:31 PM newres QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 9 2017, 04:31 ... Jun 9 2017, 05:36 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (newres @ Jun 9 2017, 06:36 PM) Gra... Jun 9 2017, 06:10 PM je suis Charlie QUOTE (newres @ Jun 9 2017, 06:36 PM) I... Jun 9 2017, 06:45 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 9 2017, 07:4... Jun 9 2017, 06:56 PM On the edge QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 9 2017, 07:4... Jun 9 2017, 07:58 PM Turin Machine QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 9 2017, 08:58 PM... Jun 9 2017, 09:27 PM Andy Capp Make sure your gate operates properly and your CCT... Jun 8 2017, 05:34 AM On the edge QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 8 2017, 06:34 AM) ... Jun 8 2017, 07:46 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 8 2017, 06:34 AM) ... Jun 8 2017, 09:54 AM On the edge QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 8 2017, 10:5... Jun 8 2017, 10:49 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 8 2017, 11:49 AM... Jun 8 2017, 10:55 AM On the edge QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 8 2017, 11:5... Jun 8 2017, 11:30 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 8 2017, 12:30 PM... Jun 8 2017, 11:35 AM Turin Machine Newres, starting fights in phone boxes since 1984 ... Jun 9 2017, 06:56 PM SirWilliam Forgive my ignorance but what has the make/model o... Jun 11 2017, 09:41 AM Turin Machine QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 11 2017, 10:41 AM... Jun 11 2017, 10:09 AM On the edge QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 11 2017, 10:41 AM... Jun 11 2017, 12:38 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 11 2017, 01:38 P... Jun 11 2017, 01:28 PM On the edge QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 11 2017, 02... Jun 11 2017, 02:08 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 11 2017, 03:08 P... Jun 11 2017, 02:11 PM On the edge QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 11 2017, 03... Jun 11 2017, 02:20 PM Andy Capp The position of any particular cruel activity on a... Jun 11 2017, 10:33 AM Cognosco QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 11 2017, 11:33 AM)... Jun 11 2017, 10:36 AM Turin Machine Thought for today.
Instead of foxes, why not hunt ... Jun 11 2017, 10:49 AM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 11 2017, 03:27 PM... Jun 11 2017, 02:33 PM On the edge QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Jun 11 2017, 09:51... Jun 11 2017, 09:08 PM On the edge QUOTE (newres @ Jun 12 2017, 05:14 PM) I ... Jun 12 2017, 04:23 PM SirWilliam QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 11 2017, 09:24 P... Jun 12 2017, 11:36 AM On the edge QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 12 2017, 12:36 PM... Jun 12 2017, 01:04 PM Turin Machine QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 11 2017, 03:38 P... Jun 11 2017, 06:53 PM je suis Charlie One of the worst things was to ban local slaughter... Jun 11 2017, 02:30 PM Biker1 OTE is correct when he says that the issue is ... Jun 11 2017, 05:58 PM TallDarkAndHandsome Hope the good Lord Buckethead gets a candidate to ... Jun 12 2017, 06:49 PM SirWilliam The bottom line is that Labour promised the moon a... Jun 12 2017, 07:03 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 12 2017, 08:03 PM... Jun 12 2017, 07:15 PM The Hatter QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 12 2017, 08:03 PM... Jun 12 2017, 08:06 PM blackdog QUOTE (The Hatter @ Jun 12 2017, 09:06 PM... Jun 13 2017, 07:13 AM SirWilliam QUOTE (blackdog @ Jun 13 2017, 08:13 AM) ... Jun 13 2017, 08:15 AM SirWilliam QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 13 2017, 09:15 AM... Jun 13 2017, 09:01 AM The Hatter QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 13 2017, 09:15 AM... Jun 13 2017, 10:48 AM SirWilliam QUOTE (The Hatter @ Jun 13 2017, 11:48 AM... Jun 13 2017, 12:48 PM On the edge QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 13 2017, 09:15 AM... Jun 13 2017, 02:55 PM The Hatter QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 13 2017, 03:55 P... Jun 13 2017, 03:03 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 13 2017, 03:55 P... Jun 13 2017, 04:12 PM SirWilliam QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 13 2017, 03:55 P... Jun 13 2017, 07:50 PM On the edge QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 13 2017, 08:50 PM... Jun 13 2017, 09:24 PM je suis Charlie QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 13 2017, 03:55 P... Jun 13 2017, 08:07 PM TallDarkAndHandsome #forthemanymanymanymanymanymany
#thefewwillleave
... Jun 13 2017, 08:58 PM On the edge QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 13 2017, 09... Jun 13 2017, 09:19 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 13 2017, 10:19 P... Jun 13 2017, 09:36 PM je suis Charlie QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 13 2017, 10... Jun 13 2017, 11:02 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 13 2017, 10... Jun 13 2017, 11:55 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 14 2017, 12:55 AM)... Jun 14 2017, 05:45 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 14 2017, 12:55 AM)... Jun 14 2017, 05:55 AM Andy Capp QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 14 2017, 06... Jun 14 2017, 06:53 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 14 2017, 07:53 AM)... Jun 14 2017, 07:00 AM SirWilliam QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 14 2017, 07:53 AM)... Jun 14 2017, 08:09 AM On the edge QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 14 2017, 09:09 AM... Jun 14 2017, 09:00 AM SirWilliam QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 14 2017, 10:00 A... Jun 14 2017, 12:44 PM On the edge QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Jun 14 2017, 01:44 PM... Jun 14 2017, 02:17 PM On the edge QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Jun 13 2017, 10... Jun 14 2017, 08:44 AM On the edge QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 13 2017, 09... Jun 13 2017, 09:13 PM The Hatter I had a boss who always claimed he'd triple h... Jun 13 2017, 09:29 PM Andy Capp I'd just say that there but for the grace of G... Jun 14 2017, 01:19 PM je suis Charlie Ahh, the democratic process,. Labours vision.
... Jun 15 2017, 08:14 AM On the edge QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 15 2017, 09... Jun 15 2017, 09:37 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (On the edge @ Jun 15 2017, 10:37 A... Jun 15 2017, 01:09 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Jun 15 2017, 02... Jun 15 2017, 05:07 PM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Jun 15 2017, 06:07 PM)... Jun 15 2017, 06:06 PM
3 Pages
1 2 3 >
2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
|
|