Kippers for Breakfast Options

[Simon Kirby]

Please note that the grilled Clacton kipper is off the menu. House of Commons Terrace Cafeteria.

[je suis Charlie]

Time tu dust off them missiles boys! Yee har!

[newres]

Time tu dust off them missiles boys! Yee har!

...and then from the safety of the suburbs wring hands when Europe's capitals pay the price.

[Simon Kirby]

...and then from the safety of the suburbs wring hands when Europe's capitals pay the price.

That's pretty much been it ever since the USA and its allies first invaded Iraq, and certainly since it toppled the regieme leaving 1Million dead and destabilised the region, provoking the creation of IS. In fact there's barely been a time since the fall of the Ottoman Empire when the west hasn't been playing off one middle east faction against another to manipulate the region for our own ends, and those pigeons are coming home to roost.

[je suis Charlie]

That's pretty much been it ever since the USA and its allies first invaded Iraq, and certainly since it toppled the regieme leaving 1Million dead and destabilised the region, provoking the creation of IS. In fact there's barely been a time since the fall of the Ottoman Empire when the west hasn't been playing off one middle east faction against another to manipulate the region for our own ends, and those pigeons are coming home to roost.

Notice it didn't stop tony Blair (Labour) and his cronies from taking us into the very same conflict with made up justification cos he thought it would make a good chapter in his memoirs!

[Simon Kirby]

Notice it didn't stop tony Blair (Labour) and his cronies from taking us into the very same conflict with made up justification cos he thought it would make a good chapter in his memoirs!

If it read like I was obfuscating that fact then I apologise, that wasn't my intention. The invasion of Iraq under the fabricated pretext of WMD was a horrendous thing and the misery of that decision will be working itself out for the rest of the century. That was a decision made by a Labour government under Tony Blair and people should indeed be reminded of that.

[Simon Kirby]

If it read like I was obfuscating that fact then I apologise, that wasn't my intention. The invasion of Iraq under the fabricated pretext of WMD was a horrendous thing and the misery of that decision will be working itself out for the rest of the century. That was a decision made by a Labour government under Tony Blair and people should indeed be reminded of that.

The UK courts are reported in the Grauniad as saying the the UK head of state has an implied immunity from prosecution for war crimes but I don't understand that reasoning. I would like to see Blair and Straw prosecuted and let the court settle the question.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/a...r-over-iraq-war

[On the edge]

The UK courts are reported in the Grauniad as saying the the UK head of state has an implied immunity from prosecution for war crimes but I don't understand that reasoning. I would like to see Blair and Straw prosecuted and let the court settle the question.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/a...r-over-iraq-war

I'd suggest the last paragraph in the report has it 'everyone should welcome this case'. It's not over and the Court has yet to decide. It's only the Government law officer that is claiming 'implied immunity', and in words used in another establishment cover up case back in the 1960's 'well, he would, wouldn't he'. The judge in that one was very keen on a saying 'no one us above the law', quite right, not even Tony Blair. Will be interesting to see the outcome, but let's just hope the understated 'reforms' Blair and his old puppet master made to our old legal system haven't mortally wounded our constitution.

There is a much bigger issue in this case, which is the offence on which it is founded. Tony Blair can't simply be prosecuted for 'war crimes' or even aggression, the breach must be specified. From what I can see, this aspect is where the deficiencies are. Sadly, that means the action could well be lost but that other wholly undesirable decisions collected along the way will get set in concrete.