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Claude
post Aug 12 2016, 12:24 PM
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The story is here

The petition is here

Over 1,300 names on a petition to reduce the speed limit to 50mph and install average speed cameras, and MP Benyon is now calling for action.

Does anyone else support this petition? I can't say I do, I just want to know why the accidents have happened in the first place.
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Turin Machine
post Aug 17 2016, 11:14 AM
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Part of the problem is that it is a hilly section of road, hgvs (bless 'em) need to maintain their rolling momentum and I see them constantly pulling out into the second lane to overtake slower traffic seemingly at the last moment. No problem with that, however when you combine this with drivers with mobiles, low attention spans, low experience, or indeed with a plenitude of distractions (like kids in the backseat) you create a 'perfect storm's scenario. A partial solution would be a third or slow traffic lane on these sections. Get it in France, works.


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post Aug 17 2016, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 17 2016, 12:14 PM) *
Part of the problem is that it is a hilly section of road, hgvs (bless 'em) need to maintain their rolling momentum and I see them constantly pulling out into the second lane to overtake slower traffic seemingly at the last moment. No problem with that, however when you combine this with drivers with mobiles, low attention spans, low experience, or indeed with a plenitude of distractions (like kids in the backseat) you create a 'perfect storm's scenario. A partial solution would be a third or slow traffic lane on these sections. Get it in France, works.


There might be something in that, but I'm not sure France is a particularly good example. 2013 results for fatalities on the road during that year:-

Per 100,000 population - UK 2.9, France 5.1
Per 100,000 vehicles - UK 5.1, France 7.6
Per 1 billion Km - UK 3.6, France 5.8

Total fatalities UK 1827, France 3268. WHO from Wikipedia.


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- Claude   A34 speed limit petition   Aug 12 2016, 12:24 PM
- - Andy Capp   I suppose if it were to reduce deaths, it might ha...   Aug 12 2016, 12:46 PM
|- - JeffG   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 12 2016, 01:46 PM)...   Aug 12 2016, 01:05 PM
- - Biker1   There are thousands of miles of dual carriageway i...   Aug 12 2016, 02:10 PM
|- - x2lls   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 12 2016, 03:10 PM) Th...   Aug 12 2016, 02:59 PM
- - Downlander   There are several reasons "why this stretch o...   Aug 14 2016, 10:47 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Downlander @ Aug 14 2016, 11:47 AM...   Aug 16 2016, 09:30 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 16 2016, 10:30 PM) As...   Aug 17 2016, 08:30 AM
- - Downlander   Apologies, I see the first link is to the recent f...   Aug 14 2016, 10:57 AM
- - gel   I'm sure if TVP had maintained the Traffic Pol...   Aug 14 2016, 11:54 AM
- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Claude @ Aug 12 2016, 01:24 PM) Th...   Aug 14 2016, 12:31 PM
|- - Downlander   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 14 2016, 01:31 P...   Aug 14 2016, 02:53 PM
- - Turin Machine   Sorry ole chap, but, Adrian? Who he?   Aug 17 2016, 12:58 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 17 2016, 01:58...   Aug 17 2016, 06:53 AM
|- - Turin Machine   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 17 2016, 07:53 AM) Wa...   Aug 17 2016, 10:37 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 17 2016, 11:37...   Aug 17 2016, 10:53 AM
- - Andy Capp   Whether other dual carriage ways deserve extra spe...   Aug 17 2016, 08:22 AM
- - Andy Capp   Whether other dual carriage was deserve extra spee...   Aug 17 2016, 08:22 AM
- - Biker1   OK, this speed restriction thing. Where do you dra...   Aug 17 2016, 10:56 AM
|- - Turin Machine   QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 17 2016, 06:46 P...   Aug 22 2016, 10:28 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Aug 22 2016, 11:28...   Aug 23 2016, 06:03 AM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 23 2016, 07:03 A...   Aug 23 2016, 11:18 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Aug 23 2016, 12...   Aug 23 2016, 12:15 PM
- - DereckT   I would suggest its standards not speed which is t...   Aug 17 2016, 07:10 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (DereckT @ Aug 17 2016, 08:10 PM) I...   Aug 17 2016, 07:13 PM
||- - DereckT   QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 17 2016, 08:13 P...   Aug 18 2016, 10:39 AM
||- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (DereckT @ Aug 18 2016, 11:39 AM) Y...   Aug 18 2016, 05:59 PM
|- - blackdog   QUOTE (DereckT @ Aug 17 2016, 08:10 PM) I...   Aug 18 2016, 11:20 AM
- - Biker1   Interesting map here. A34 in thin green. Or you ca...   Aug 18 2016, 09:21 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 18 2016, 10:21 PM) In...   Aug 19 2016, 09:48 AM
- - spartacus   So according to that Road Safety Foundation websit...   Aug 19 2016, 07:46 PM
|- - Andy Capp   QUOTE (spartacus @ Aug 19 2016, 08:46 PM)...   Aug 19 2016, 08:26 PM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 19 2016, 09:26 PM)...   Aug 19 2016, 09:17 PM
- - On the edge   I couldn't get the search to work in Biker...   Aug 19 2016, 09:40 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (On the edge @ Aug 19 2016, 10:40 P...   Aug 20 2016, 09:33 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 20 2016, 10:33 AM) It...   Aug 22 2016, 04:19 PM
- - Biker1   Here is a prime example of the real problems faced...   Aug 22 2016, 07:21 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 22 2016, 08:21 AM) He...   Aug 22 2016, 04:22 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 22 2016, 08:21 AM) He...   Aug 22 2016, 04:22 PM
- - je suis Charlie   Like this you mean? http://www.thelocal.fr/20160...   Aug 22 2016, 10:56 PM
- - je suis Charlie   And he's, you guessed it. Excess speed played...   Sep 10 2016, 11:15 AM
|- - Claude   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 10 2016, 12...   Sep 12 2016, 10:09 AM
- - Turin Machine   So what was it?   Sep 10 2016, 06:14 PM
- - spartacus   He's being charged with dangerous driving. I...   Sep 10 2016, 06:29 PM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 10 2016, 07:29 PM)...   Sep 10 2016, 06:52 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 10 2016, 07...   Sep 11 2016, 05:28 AM
- - JeffG   Sorry - who are we talking about? Edit: Ah - I fo...   Sep 11 2016, 09:07 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 11 2016, 10:07 AM) Sor...   Sep 11 2016, 09:37 AM
||- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 11 2016, 10:37 AM) Th...   Sep 11 2016, 10:55 AM
||- - JeffG   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 11 2016, 10:37 AM) Th...   Sep 11 2016, 12:25 PM
||- - On the edge   QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 11 2016, 01:25 PM) Tha...   Sep 11 2016, 03:34 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 11 2016, 10:07 AM) I f...   Sep 11 2016, 05:51 PM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 11 2016, 06:51 PM) So...   Sep 12 2016, 06:49 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 12 2016, 07:49 A...   Sep 12 2016, 07:23 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 12 2016, 08:23 AM) Oh...   Sep 12 2016, 08:18 AM
- - Turin Machine   Yup, a lot of us swivel eyed Tory loons out there...   Sep 11 2016, 05:49 PM
- - Turin Machine   I say keep em out! Big fence at the border...   Sep 12 2016, 08:21 AM
- - je suis Charlie   It you don't know what speed he was doo.g do y...   Sep 12 2016, 12:00 PM
|- - Claude   QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 12 2016, 01...   Sep 12 2016, 12:34 PM
|- - Berkshirelad   QUOTE (Claude @ Sep 12 2016, 01:34 PM) It...   Sep 12 2016, 01:03 PM
|- - Claude   QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 12 2016, 02:03 ...   Sep 12 2016, 02:50 PM
|- - je suis Charlie   QUOTE (Claude @ Sep 12 2016, 03:50 PM) a)...   Sep 12 2016, 03:46 PM
- - gel   Presumably police will know from his tacograph exa...   Sep 12 2016, 04:21 PM
- - spartacus   QUOTE (Claude @ Sep 12 2016, 11:09 AM) If...   Sep 12 2016, 07:16 PM
|- - Ron   Or he may have been like a Walkers Crisp lorry las...   Sep 12 2016, 07:34 PM
|- - newres   QUOTE (Ron @ Sep 12 2016, 08:34 PM) Or he...   Sep 12 2016, 08:43 PM
|- - Berkshirelad   QUOTE (Ron @ Sep 12 2016, 08:34 PM) Or he...   Sep 13 2016, 08:43 AM
|- - gel   QUOTE (Ron @ Sep 12 2016, 08:34 PM) Or he...   Sep 13 2016, 09:17 AM
|- - Ron   QUOTE (gel @ Sep 13 2016, 10:17 AM) Next ...   Sep 13 2016, 10:41 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Ron @ Sep 13 2016, 11:41 AM) My pa...   Sep 14 2016, 08:25 AM
- - je suis Charlie   Or he was playin with his mobile.   Sep 12 2016, 07:31 PM
- - je suis Charlie   Trucker, probably trying to entertain a 'lady ...   Sep 12 2016, 09:30 PM
- - Berkshirelad   This is the archived detail of the 6 month trial i...   Sep 13 2016, 12:51 PM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Sep 13 2016, 01:51 ...   Sep 14 2016, 08:24 AM
- - motormad   I don't think reducing speed limit will help. ...   Sep 14 2016, 11:56 AM
|- - Simon Kirby   QUOTE (motormad @ Sep 14 2016, 12:56 PM) ...   Sep 14 2016, 07:27 PM
|- - je suis Charlie   [quote name='Simon Kirby' date='Sep 14...   Sep 14 2016, 10:43 PM
- - Turin Machine   I think he means in the same way as drink driving ...   Sep 14 2016, 11:54 PM
- - Andy Capp   I think it is taboo, but using a mobile is so impo...   Sep 15 2016, 12:48 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 15 2016, 01:48 AM)...   Sep 15 2016, 06:49 AM
- - Andy Capp   Rightly or wrongly, I doubt there are many people ...   Sep 15 2016, 08:18 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 15 2016, 09:18 AM)...   Sep 15 2016, 09:15 AM
- - JeffG   There's a world of difference between holding ...   Sep 15 2016, 09:29 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 15 2016, 10:29 AM) The...   Sep 15 2016, 10:18 AM
|- - Claude   QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 15 2016, 10:29 AM) The...   Sep 15 2016, 01:05 PM
- - Turin Machine   Yes you can, if it can be shown to be a causal eff...   Sep 15 2016, 01:27 PM
|- - JeffG   QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Sep 15 2016, 02:27...   Sep 15 2016, 02:11 PM
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- - JeffG   So, you wouldn't class this as a "dangero...   Sep 17 2016, 09:08 AM
|- - Biker1   QUOTE (JeffG @ Sep 17 2016, 10:08 AM) So,...   Sep 17 2016, 09:11 AM
|- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Sep 17 2016, 10:11 AM) Po...   Sep 17 2016, 12:52 PM
- - Biker1   So not speed then!   Oct 10 2016, 03:30 PM
|- - newres   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 10 2016, 04:30 PM) So...   Oct 10 2016, 03:57 PM
- - Turin Machine   The answer is simple if unpalatable and due to cos...   Oct 10 2016, 11:26 PM
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- - On the edge   QUOTE (Biker1 @ Oct 12 2016, 09:47 AM) Tr...   Oct 12 2016, 12:22 PM
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