Our border in France., What's wrong with having it in UK? Options

[On the edge]

Lots of debate recently about our border. It seems we have an agreement with the French a Government that our border control can actually be in their Country. A bit odd that, to say the least, why shouldn't these controls be in the UK? As things exist, we are expecting the French to do the real job for us. Why should they?

Particularly with a no vote, surely we want the border in our own jurisdiction. Then any passenger coming through the gate without the necessary paperwork is simply turned back. That's how it works in many other Countries, why not here?

[Andy Capp]

We wouldn't have a Jungle; that's daft. It would have to be prison for it to have any inhabitants. The Jungle exists because people are queuing to get in to the UK and once in the people would disperse.

[blackdog]

We wouldn't have a Jungle; that's daft. It would have to be prison for it to have any inhabitants. The Jungle exists because people are queuing to get in to the UK and once in the people would disperse.

Quite right(ish). Thousands do get through to the UK and we do have prisons for them- our detention centres are bulging at the seams.

[Cognosco]

Quite right(ish). Thousands do get through to the UK and we do have prisons for them- our detention centres are bulging at the seams.

Illegal immigrants do not get sent to prison they get sent to a detention center, providing one is available of course which very often is not the case, whilst their circumstances are investigate. As the majority of them have no paperwork or any form of identification, often on purpose I believe, then it is very hard indeed to send them back to any other country. Police officers often detain them when found but as there is not enough detention center places for them they then get let out on bail and of course then disappear. again.
The only sure way to stop illegals is to ensure they aren't able to enter the UK in the first place but how you do that has not been decided yet!

[Berkshirelad]

Illegal immigrants do not get sent to prison they get sent to a detention center,

Whereas in Calais, they have built their own...

If an asylum seeker is allowed asylum in an EU country, then after a couple of years, they have the right to avail themselves of free movement within the EU (currently including the UK). Don't confuse this with Schengen which is about border control and not free movement between countries.

Our problem with immigration (if you accept that there is too much at the moment) is that we can only deny access to non-EU citizens. This prevents us controlling numbers of immigrants effectively as well as being entirely unfair on non-EU applicants.

If we leave the EU, we can effectively control all immigration - perhaps with a points system like US, Canada, Australia and others.