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Feb 22 2016, 07:55 AM
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UKIP simply suffers from our present deliberate misuse of emotive words. They are not racist, they are isolationist. That's not an unreasonable position; in fact, probably a good many of us feel the same way.
For me, prior to our joining the EU, we grew a much greater percentage of our food, we had an industrial and manufacturing base, we took pride in our local differences. We could see responsible career paths, with a stable livelihoods continuing for our children
Our island was already a 'single market which had embraced ever further union'. Even then, keeping our separate nation states together wasn't easy and was facing strident calls to separate. At least we had a stable single currency and a single language.
If we had troubles on our small scale; what chance Europe?
Note - when the strident voices tell you that UK isn't big enough to have sustained its own mass car and motorcycle manufacturing firms, world size computing firms, food and confectionary firms. etc.etc. simply ask how Japan has managed. (Of course, it was all the fault of the trades unions....!!)
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TallDarkAndHandsome Europe - In or Out Feb 20 2016, 03:56 PM Turin Machine Out. Feb 20 2016, 06:58 PM Andy Capp I will vote 'Out', but I suspect the count... Feb 20 2016, 07:29 PM TallDarkAndHandsome I'm out. Not because of immigration. I just li... Feb 20 2016, 07:38 PM x2lls Out Feb 20 2016, 09:23 PM On the edge Out. The negotiations didn't address the real... Feb 20 2016, 09:24 PM je suis Charlie Out foul spot. Out, sooner the better. Put the mo... Feb 20 2016, 11:08 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 20 2016, 11... Feb 21 2016, 06:55 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 21 2016, 06:55 A... Feb 21 2016, 01:12 PM Turin Machine QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 21 2016, 06:55 A... Feb 21 2016, 11:23 PM Andy Capp The biggest 'Out' problem I see is the pos... Feb 20 2016, 11:43 PM On the edge QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 20 2016, 11:43 PM)... Feb 21 2016, 07:58 AM newres In.
I saw a "status" being shared on F... Feb 21 2016, 05:08 AM On the edge QUOTE (newres @ Feb 21 2016, 05:08 AM) In... Feb 21 2016, 08:02 AM blackdog QUOTE (newres @ Feb 21 2016, 05:08 AM) In... Feb 21 2016, 12:51 PM On the edge QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 21 2016, 12:51 PM) ... Feb 21 2016, 01:37 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 21 2016, 12:51 PM) ... Feb 21 2016, 03:06 PM blackdog QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 21 2016, 03:06 PM)... Feb 21 2016, 04:03 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 21 2016, 04:03 PM) ... Feb 21 2016, 04:30 PM nerc out Feb 21 2016, 06:17 AM HJD Out. Feb 21 2016, 10:29 AM Cognosco It's out for me.
I don't like the way Eur... Feb 21 2016, 04:14 PM James_Trinder Got to be in. We do too much trade with the rest ... Feb 22 2016, 02:01 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Feb 22 2016, 02:01... Feb 22 2016, 03:13 PM James_Trinder QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2016, 03:13 PM)... Feb 22 2016, 04:09 PM On the edge QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Feb 22 2016, 04:09... Feb 22 2016, 05:48 PM James_Trinder QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 22 2016, 05:48 P... Feb 23 2016, 12:57 PM On the edge QUOTE (James_Trinder @ Feb 23 2016, 12:57... Feb 23 2016, 03:04 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2016, 03:13 PM)... Feb 22 2016, 04:31 PM Andy Capp I would be more in favour of a EU light, but to de... Feb 21 2016, 04:35 PM user23 In.
One look the collection of swivel eyed and le... Feb 21 2016, 05:42 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 05:42 PM) In... Feb 21 2016, 06:00 PM user23 QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 21 2016, 06... Feb 21 2016, 07:01 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 07:01 PM) Fi... Feb 21 2016, 07:16 PM user23 QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 21 2016, 07... Feb 21 2016, 08:40 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 08:40 PM) I ... Feb 21 2016, 08:48 PM On the edge QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 07:01 PM) Fi... Feb 21 2016, 07:56 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 21 2016, 07:56 P... Feb 21 2016, 08:01 PM user23 QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 21 2016, 07:56 P... Feb 21 2016, 08:47 PM je suis Charlie QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 08:47 PM) Do... Feb 21 2016, 08:50 PM user23 QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 21 2016, 08... Feb 21 2016, 08:56 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 08:56 PM) On... Feb 21 2016, 08:59 PM TallDarkAndHandsome Has anyone noticed how most keyboard warriors stru... Feb 21 2016, 09:02 PM On the edge QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 08:56 PM) On... Feb 21 2016, 09:17 PM x2lls QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 21 2016, 08... Feb 21 2016, 10:28 PM Turin Machine QUOTE (x2lls @ Feb 21 2016, 10:28 PM) You... Feb 21 2016, 11:25 PM x2lls QUOTE (Turin Machine @ Feb 21 2016, 11:25... Feb 22 2016, 12:09 AM Andy Capp QUOTE (x2lls @ Feb 22 2016, 12:09 AM) Why... Feb 22 2016, 12:56 AM Turin Machine QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2016, 12:56 AM)... Feb 22 2016, 01:16 AM x2lls QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2016, 12:56 AM)... Feb 22 2016, 01:19 AM Andy Capp QUOTE (x2lls @ Feb 22 2016, 01:19 AM) I t... Feb 22 2016, 01:27 AM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 22 2016, 01:27 AM)... Feb 22 2016, 07:57 AM Simon Kirby I'd also say that a strong case can be made to... Feb 22 2016, 07:59 AM On the edge QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 08:47 PM) Do... Feb 21 2016, 09:04 PM user23 QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 21 2016, 09:04 P... Feb 21 2016, 09:14 PM On the edge QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 09:14 PM) In... Feb 21 2016, 09:41 PM Cognosco QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 05:42 PM) In... Feb 21 2016, 06:34 PM GMR QUOTE (user23 @ Feb 21 2016, 05:42 PM) In... Feb 22 2016, 05:23 PM Simon Kirby I'm undecided. I don't particularly like ... Feb 21 2016, 08:09 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 21 2016, 08:09 P... Feb 21 2016, 08:23 PM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 21 2016, 08:09 P... Feb 21 2016, 08:42 PM je suis Charlie 1st minister wants out of GT Britain but wants to ... Feb 21 2016, 08:48 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 21 2016, 08... Feb 21 2016, 08:51 PM je suis Charlie QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 21 2016, 08... Feb 21 2016, 08:54 PM Andy Capp While I would vote 'No' now, I stand to be... Feb 21 2016, 10:11 PM Andy Capp What I'd like to know is why people would want... Feb 22 2016, 01:20 AM Biker1 Out.
Looks like it may be the way we're going... Feb 22 2016, 04:57 PM Simon Kirby Maybe some of those voting out can say a bit more ... Feb 22 2016, 05:12 PM On the edge QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2016, 05:12 P... Feb 22 2016, 05:57 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 22 2016, 05:57 P... Feb 22 2016, 07:25 PM On the edge QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2016, 07:25 P... Feb 22 2016, 08:23 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 22 2016, 07:25 P... Feb 22 2016, 10:23 PM On the edge QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 22 2016, 10... Feb 23 2016, 07:08 AM Simon Kirby QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 22 2016, 10... Feb 23 2016, 08:19 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 23 2016, 08:19 A... Feb 23 2016, 08:45 AM On the edge QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 23 2016, 08... Feb 23 2016, 09:06 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 23 2016, 09:06 A... Feb 23 2016, 11:38 AM GMR I will vote out, but I think the country will vote... Feb 22 2016, 05:21 PM Andy Capp I fear being in or out wouldn't make the diffe... Feb 23 2016, 06:36 PM On the edge QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 23 2016, 06:36 PM)... Feb 23 2016, 06:55 PM GMR QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 23 2016, 06:36 PM)... Feb 23 2016, 08:08 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (GMR @ Feb 23 2016, 08:08 PM) It wo... Feb 23 2016, 08:56 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 23 2016, 08:56 PM)... Feb 23 2016, 09:07 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 23 2016, 09... Feb 23 2016, 09:14 PM TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 23 2016, 09:14 PM)... Feb 23 2016, 09:42 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Feb 23 2016, 09... Feb 24 2016, 07:49 AM je suis Charlie QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 23 2016, 09:14 PM)... Feb 24 2016, 12:18 AM Andy Capp QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Feb 24 2016, 12... Feb 24 2016, 01:16 AM Andy Capp “What did the EU ever do for us?
In the week when... Feb 23 2016, 06:43 PM On the edge QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 23 2016, 06:43 PM)... Feb 23 2016, 07:02 PM Andy Capp QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 23 2016, 07:02 P... Feb 23 2016, 07:33 PM On the edge QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 23 2016, 07:33 PM)... Feb 23 2016, 07:47 PM Biker1 QUOTE (On the edge @ Feb 23 2016, 09:47 P... Feb 23 2016, 08:49 PM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Feb 23 2016, 06:43 PM)... Feb 23 2016, 07:23 PM Andy1 Leave the EU for Freedom. Freedom to restore the l... Feb 24 2016, 06:35 AM Simon Kirby QUOTE (Andy1 @ Feb 24 2016, 06:35 AM) Lea... Feb 24 2016, 07:52 AM Andy1 QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Feb 24 2016, 07:52 A... Feb 24 2016, 08:05 AM Andy1 QUOTE (Andy1 @ Feb 24 2016, 08:05 AM) I t... Feb 24 2016, 08:58 AM Ken My vote would be for out. Feb 24 2016, 04:49 PM
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