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Petra
post Nov 8 2015, 09:40 AM
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Here is a teaser for you all to answer. Are food banks necessary or just an instrument of abuse? And are people really suffering or just bad at managing their money? Or just very clever?
Food banks are now everywhere, which means that people who are short of money can redirect what they have got (to smart phones, satellite TV etc.) and away from the essentials (such as food) because food-banks supplies that need.

It will be interesting to see how people will come back on this one.

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post Nov 8 2015, 07:24 PM
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The great thing about most Food Banks is that they are sourced and run totally independently. So, on that basis, what right have we got to criticise their validity? It does mean that the people who support them clearly feel our State welfare provision is inadequate in some areas and more, are prepared to do something positive themselves to mitigate the situation; apart from just political hand wringing.


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post Nov 9 2015, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 8 2015, 07:24 PM) *
The great thing about most Food Banks is that they are sourced and run totally independently. So, on that basis, what right have we got to criticise their validity? It does mean that the people who support them clearly feel our State welfare provision is inadequate in some areas and more, are prepared to do something positive themselves to mitigate the situation; apart from just political hand wringing.





I agree that those food banks are genuine and only wish is to help those in need. But how do we classify those in need? They all basically get the same money so why does one have needs and the other doesn't. Is the answer "thrift?" If the answer if thrift then food banks aren't the answer.

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post Nov 9 2015, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Nov 9 2015, 05:04 PM) *
But how do we classify those in need?

Why would you want to do that?


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post Nov 9 2015, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Nov 9 2015, 06:50 PM) *
Why would you want to do that?


Doesn't society do that as a matter of course, anyway? Otherwise any Tom, **** or Harry will just claim Tax payers money.

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- Petra   Food-banks   Nov 8 2015, 09:40 AM
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- - Simon Kirby   Take the Trussel Trust Food Banks for example: Th...   Nov 8 2015, 05:04 PM
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