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post Nov 3 2015, 03:50 PM
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http://info.westberks.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=31554
We may all as well go live in a cave! This is pretty poor stuff, from a modern so called caring society.


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post Nov 3 2015, 07:17 PM
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Totally agree, this cascade of responsibility is grossly irresponsible. If we can't afford to do something, we can't afford it, period.


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post Nov 3 2015, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 3 2015, 08:17 PM) *
Totally agree, this cascade of responsibility is grossly irresponsible. If we can't afford to do something, we can't afford it, period.
I disagree. Communities can afford this by raising the precept for their parish, if it's something they want to do in their area.
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post Nov 3 2015, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 3 2015, 07:54 PM) *
I disagree. Communities can afford this by raising the precept for their parish, if it's something they want to do in their area.


West Berkshire is a unitary council, therefore West Berkshire IS the community.


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post Nov 3 2015, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 3 2015, 09:55 PM) *
West Berkshire is a unitary council, therefore West Berkshire IS the community.
There are 60 or so parishes that make up the community of West Berkshire.

But you must know that, so I don't know quite where you're going with this.
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post Nov 3 2015, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (user23 @ Nov 3 2015, 09:05 PM) *
There are 60 or so parishes that make up the community of West Berkshire.

But you must know that, so I don't know quite where you're going with this.

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There are 60 or so parishes that make up the community of West Berkshire.

But you must know that, so I don't know quite where you're going with this.


Quite simply the parish councils have a different role. They are not, and were never intended to be 'mini district councils'. Passing over services on such an ad hoc basis would create role conflict, cause confusion and increase costs, both first and ongoing. Arguably, if the Parish level council could take over the services due to be cut, then there is no reason why they shouldn't take over all the others as well. For instance, NTC covers the area of the previous Newbury Borough; which was thought sufficiently competent to run a wide range of services etc. In effect, you'd be re-creating one sixth of a Berkshire County Council by stealth. That's really going to cut costs!

Quite apart from that, the bigger parish councils have not exactly demonstrated competence or financial prudence. Some have even have a paid administrative establishment and an expensive property portfolio.

I for one would therefore argue that far from taking on more work, parish level councils should be looking to slim down too and be subject to similar severe financial constraints. After all, even the other preceptors such as the Police are making much noise about financial cuts, why should a parish council be any different?


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post Nov 4 2015, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Nov 3 2015, 11:35 PM) *
Quite simply the parish councils have a different role. They are not, and were never intended to be 'mini district councils'.
I don't agree with that sort of siloed and "we've always done it like that" thinking.

Communities have an opportunity to re-shape the way services are delivered to them, or not if they don't require them, through their parish council.
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