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Sep 3 2015, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 3 2015, 06:23 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) That's of course if the Germans follow through with it. I don't think they now have any choice after what they said.
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Sep 3 2015, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 3 2015, 07:41 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) I don't think they now have any choice after what they said. They never committed to 'talking' 800,000 (another Petra error), only that they expected it. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/...arrivals-800000
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Sep 3 2015, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 3 2015, 09:08 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) They never committed to 'talking' 800,000 (another Petra error), only that they expected it. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/...arrivals-800000Aren't you splitting hairs here? They will probably take over 800,000 at the end of the day.
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Sep 3 2015, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 3 2015, 09:51 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) Aren't you splitting hairs here? They will probably take over 800,000 at the end of the day. No, just trying to correct possible missinformation. Some commentators doubt that the projection will happen. It could even be an attempt by Germany to 'embarrass' other countries into doing more which might mean they will not receive as many.
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Sep 4 2015, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 3 2015, 09:58 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) No, just trying to correct possible missinformation. Some commentators doubt that the projection will happen. It could even be an attempt by Germany to 'embarrass' other countries into doing more which might mean they will not receive as many. I noticed that you use "possible" and "some," which actually doesn't really mean anything. I've read a lot on this and it seems it all depends on what you read and what you watch. On that, it could mean you could be right, or Petra could be right. Nevertheless, the way governments work, by subterfuge and disinformation, I wouldn't be surprised that Petra was right. I think anybody would be a fool to trust the government at face value. I now read that the Government will take so many thousands. I have no doubt that whatever they take it will be criticised for not being enough. This will encourage those watching from afar that it is worth the risk for a better life. If I was in their shoes I would be encouraged to take the risk for a better life.
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Sep 4 2015, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2015, 01:03 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) I noticed that you use "possible" and "some," which actually doesn't really mean anything. I've read a lot on this and it seems it all depends on what you read and what you watch. On that, it could mean you could be right, or Petra could be right. Nevertheless, the way governments work, by subterfuge and disinformation, I wouldn't be surprised that Petra was right. I think anybody would be a fool to trust the government at face value.
I now read that the Government will take so many thousands. I have no doubt that whatever they take it will be criticised for not being enough. This will encourage those watching from afar that it is worth the risk for a better life. If I was in their shoes I would be encouraged to take the risk for a better life. That is the rub: "No good deed goes unpunished." Two dead boys are washed-up on the beach in front of the glare of the media, so now there's an imperative to home hundreds of thousands of immigrants. It is a pity that the media weren't there on the street to whiteness the death and destruction when the coalition performed 'Shock and Awe' on Iraq to the same effect. The western world have taken the 'piece' for too long; we are now getting what we deserve.
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Sep 4 2015, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2015, 05:02 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) That is the rub: "No good deed goes unpunished."
Two dead boys are washed-up in the beach in front of the glare of the media, now there's an imperative to home hundreds of thousands of immigrants. It is a pity that the media weren't there on the street to whiteness the death and destruction when the coalition performed 'Shock and Awe' on Iraq to the same effect.
The western world have taken the 'piece' for too long, we are now getting what we deserve. And if I loaded my family into a leaky unseaworthy boat and tried to sail across the channel losing said family in the process, I wonder how much sympathy I would garner? Or would the authorities and the public turn on me?
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Sep 4 2015, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 4 2015, 06:47 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) And if I loaded my family into a leaky unseaworthy boat and tried to sail across the channel losing said family in the process, I wonder how much sympathy I would garner? Or would the authorities and the public turn on me? They would turn on you because they would think - rightly - what idiot would put their family in danger when they didn't have to. Compared to somebody fleeing from a war-torn country. In fact I would go as far as seeing you put into jail.
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Sep 4 2015, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2015, 07:21 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) They would turn on you because they would think - rightly - what idiot would put their family in danger when they didn't have to. Compared to somebody fleeing from a war-torn country. In fact I would go as far as seeing you put into jail. Do you know from what country the family set-off from?
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Sep 4 2015, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2015, 07:27 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) Do you know from what country the family set-off from? According to the press it was a war torn country. Does that help?
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Sep 4 2015, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2015, 07:28 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) According to the press it was a war torn country. Does that help? Can you send me a link to where you read that as that isn't what I have read.
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Sep 4 2015, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2015, 07:35 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) Can you send me a link to where you read that as that isn't what I have read. I would love to, but I heard it on the news. Actually, I also read it, but not sure where. No doubt it will surface again or you could put key pointers in the search engine and hopefully it will pop up. Whether what I read it true or not, or what you read it true or not I am sure the truth can be easily found on the internet. By the way; what did you read?
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Sep 4 2015, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2015, 07:40 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) I would love to, but I heard it on the news. Actually, I also read it, but not sure where. No doubt it will surface again or you could put key pointers in the search engine and hopefully it will pop up. Whether what I read it true or not, or what you read it true or not I am sure the truth can be easily found on the internet.
By the way; what did you read? I know where to find it, it is just you made an emphatic statement that was contrary to what I understood, so I wanted to check; however, I believe they set-off from Turkey which I also believe isn't war-torn.
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Sep 4 2015, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2015, 07:43 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) I know where to find it, it is just you made an emphatic statement that was contrary to what I understood, so I wanted to check; however, I believe they the set-off from Turkey which I also believe isn't war-torn. There are many refugees who fled to Turkey from war-torn countries. And to be honest they are not that well treated in Turkey (according to some reports). Also; prospects are a lot better and healthier in Europe than the middle East and with Germany offering to take refugees and Tourist migrants (without checking) then it is well worth the risks. Turkey doesn't offer free health service or such amenities as Europe does.
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QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2015, 07:53 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) There are many refugees who fled to Turkey from war-torn countries. And to be honest they are not that well treated in Turkey (according to some reports).
Also; prospects are a lot better and healthier in Europe than the middle East and with Germany offering to take refugees and Tourist migrants (without checking) then it is well worth the risks. Turkey doesn't offer free health service or such amenities as Europe does. So they risked their lives fleeing from (presumably) poverty; Turkey, after all, have taken the lions share of the fleeing Syrians. The impression the media are showing is that a of something like Dunkirk, but what it seem to be closer to is a famine relief effort. My point is simply that to offer sanctuary to people considering putting their lives in danger is akin to negotiating a settlement with hostage takers, but of course, on a much larger scale
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2015, 08:01 PM) ![*](style_images/NWN/post_snapback.gif) So they risked their lives fleeing from (presumably) poverty; Turkey, after all, have taken the lions share of the fleeing Syrians. I would say they are fleeing to better prospects. Also; those that are in Turkey are, as far as I know, in camps. They would be offered a better future in Europe, I am sure you'll agree with that? QUOTE The impression the media are showing is that a of something like Dunkirk, but what it seem to be closer to is a famine relief effort. Maybe six of one, half a dozen of the other?
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Sep 2 2015, 09:31 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2015, 08:06 PM) I woul... Sep 4 2015, 07:20 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) GMR QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2015, 08:20 PM) ... Sep 6 2015, 03:19 PM Andy Capp I appreciate fully that I am writing from a positi... Sep 4 2015, 06:00 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) GMR QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2015, 07:00 PM) ... Sep 4 2015, 06:27 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2015, 07:27 PM) And wh... Sep 4 2015, 06:38 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) GMR QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2015, 07:38 PM) ... Sep 4 2015, 06:42 PM On the edge ...and so yet again Orwell got it right in 1984. ... Sep 4 2015, 06:20 PM On the edge GMR is quite right, there is little real differenc... Sep 4 2015, 08:00 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 4 2015, 09:00 PM... Sep 4 2015, 08:11 PM spartacus QUOTE (GMR @ Sep 4 2015, 07:21 PM) They w... Sep 4 2015, 08:36 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 4 2015, 09:36 PM) ... Sep 4 2015, 08:57 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) On the edge QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 4 2015, 09:57 PM) ... Sep 5 2015, 11:08 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) Andy Capp QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 5 2015, 12:08 PM... Sep 5 2015, 11:52 AM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) On the edge QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Sep 5 2015, 12:52 PM) ... Sep 5 2015, 03:48 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) GMR QUOTE (spartacus @ Sep 4 2015, 09:36 PM) ... Sep 6 2015, 03:23 PM je suis Charlie And It's a bit problematic to produce more foo... Sep 5 2015, 02:30 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) On the edge QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 5 2015, 03:3... Sep 5 2015, 03:45 PM TallDarkAndHandsome How about everyone stays in the Country they were ... Sep 5 2015, 04:28 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) On the edge QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Sep 5 2015, 05... Sep 5 2015, 05:28 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) TallDarkAndHandsome QUOTE (On the edge @ Sep 5 2015, 06:28 PM... Sep 5 2015, 06:04 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) je suis Charlie QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Sep 5 2015, 07... Sep 5 2015, 06:26 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) On the edge QUOTE (je suis Charlie @ Sep 5 2015, 07:2... Sep 5 2015, 08:40 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/NWN/spacer.gif) GMR QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Sep 5 2015, 07... Sep 6 2015, 03:29 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) GMR QUOTE (TallDarkAndHandsome @ Sep 5 2015, 05... Sep 6 2015, 03:27 PM Nothing Much Terribly complicated these days to mix Roma and Ro... Sep 6 2015, 12:37 PM![|](style_images/NWN/to_down_pipe.gif) On the edge QUOTE (Nothing Much @ Sep 6 2015, 01:37 P... Sep 6 2015, 03:08 PM Nothing Much How about everyone stays in the Country they were ... Sep 6 2015, 03:56 PM
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