Immigration Crisis, getting what we deserve? Options

[Andy Capp]

Anyone feel that the current much reported immigration issue is an example of doing something when we shouldn't (Iraq) and not doing something when we should (Syria)? Or is is this a more complex and multifaceted issue. People see what an open society we have compared to their own lot and want a taste of it too? An unintended consequence of an open boarder policy?

[Andy Capp]

That's of course if the Germans follow through with it.

[GMR]

That's of course if the Germans follow through with it.

I don't think they now have any choice after what they said.

[Andy Capp]

I don't think they now have any choice after what they said.

They never committed to 'talking' 800,000 (another Petra error), only that they expected it.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/...arrivals-800000

[GMR]

They never committed to 'talking' 800,000 (another Petra error), only that they expected it.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/...arrivals-800000

Aren't you splitting hairs here? They will probably take over 800,000 at the end of the day.

[Andy Capp]

Aren't you splitting hairs here? They will probably take over 800,000 at the end of the day.

No, just trying to correct possible missinformation. Some commentators doubt that the projection will happen. It could even be an attempt by Germany to 'embarrass' other countries into doing more which might mean they will not receive as many.

[GMR]

No, just trying to correct possible missinformation. Some commentators doubt that the projection will happen. It could even be an attempt by Germany to 'embarrass' other countries into doing more which might mean they will not receive as many.

I noticed that you use "possible" and "some," which actually doesn't really mean anything. I've read a lot on this and it seems it all depends on what you read and what you watch. On that, it could mean you could be right, or Petra could be right. Nevertheless, the way governments work, by subterfuge and disinformation, I wouldn't be surprised that Petra was right. I think anybody would be a fool to trust the government at face value.

I now read that the Government will take so many thousands. I have no doubt that whatever they take it will be criticised for not being enough. This will encourage those watching from afar that it is worth the risk for a better life. If I was in their shoes I would be encouraged to take the risk for a better life.

[Andy Capp]

I noticed that you use "possible" and "some," which actually doesn't really mean anything. I've read a lot on this and it seems it all depends on what you read and what you watch. On that, it could mean you could be right, or Petra could be right. Nevertheless, the way governments work, by subterfuge and disinformation, I wouldn't be surprised that Petra was right. I think anybody would be a fool to trust the government at face value.

I now read that the Government will take so many thousands. I have no doubt that whatever they take it will be criticised for not being enough. This will encourage those watching from afar that it is worth the risk for a better life. If I was in their shoes I would be encouraged to take the risk for a better life.

That is the rub: "No good deed goes unpunished."

Two dead boys are washed-up on the beach in front of the glare of the media, so now there's an imperative to home hundreds of thousands of immigrants. It is a pity that the media weren't there on the street to whiteness the death and destruction when the coalition performed 'Shock and Awe' on Iraq to the same effect.

The western world have taken the 'piece' for too long; we are now getting what we deserve.

[je suis Charlie]

That is the rub: "No good deed goes unpunished."

Two dead boys are washed-up in the beach in front of the glare of the media, now there's an imperative to home hundreds of thousands of immigrants. It is a pity that the media weren't there on the street to whiteness the death and destruction when the coalition performed 'Shock and Awe' on Iraq to the same effect.

The western world have taken the 'piece' for too long, we are now getting what we deserve.

And if I loaded my family into a leaky unseaworthy boat and tried to sail across the channel losing said family in the process, I wonder how much sympathy I would garner? Or would the authorities and the public turn on me?

[GMR]

And if I loaded my family into a leaky unseaworthy boat and tried to sail across the channel losing said family in the process, I wonder how much sympathy I would garner? Or would the authorities and the public turn on me?

They would turn on you because they would think - rightly - what idiot would put their family in danger when they didn't have to. Compared to somebody fleeing from a war-torn country. In fact I would go as far as seeing you put into jail.

[Andy Capp]

They would turn on you because they would think - rightly - what idiot would put their family in danger when they didn't have to. Compared to somebody fleeing from a war-torn country. In fact I would go as far as seeing you put into jail.

Do you know from what country the family set-off from?

[GMR]

Do you know from what country the family set-off from?

According to the press it was a war torn country. Does that help?

[Andy Capp]

According to the press it was a war torn country. Does that help?

Can you send me a link to where you read that as that isn't what I have read.