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Apr 24 2015, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 22 2015, 06:59 PM) The rail company has a duty of care for its passengers and staff. UK has the safest railway in Europe Andy.
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Apr 24 2015, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 24 2015, 10:15 AM) UK has the safest railway in Europe Andy. That might be the case, but doesn't change the point. If there have been more sever incidents at one point than another, unless there is a budget to make the same mitigation at all points, it is logical to target the ones with the highest incident rate.
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Apr 25 2015, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE (On the edge @ Apr 24 2015, 11:21 AM) ...then we also have a good few sensible drivers who suggest, even on this forum that a two barrier crossing would be safer. Yet the rail industry simply says no. We may well have the safest railway in Europe but we've had two fatalities on a local level crossing and somewhat too many elsewhere. Rather than simply dismissing other suggestions out of hand, good safety practice would at least investigate and give a considered response. We may well have the safest railway in Europe, but remember, that's just at this moment in time. It's always worth listening to your customers... QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Apr 24 2015, 11:29 AM) That might be the case, but doesn't change the point. If there have been more sever incidents at one point than another, unless there is a budget to make the same mitigation at all points, it is logical to target the ones with the highest incident rate. I'll accept those arguments on all points bearing in mind that... Safety is at the forefront of all UK railway operations and companies, hence my safest in Europe point. I still maintain that if Ufton isn't safe then neither are any other AHBC's. Ufton has gained a reputation, fed to a large extent by the media, this paper being one of the main culprits. That is all that differs it from the others. Sadly, if someone is determined to do it they will find somewhere else.
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Apr 25 2015, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 25 2015, 10:26 AM) I still maintain that if Ufton isn't safe then neither are any other AHBC's. Ufton has gained a reputation, fed to a large extent by the media, this paper being one of the main culprits. That is all that differs it from the others. From what I understand Network Rail are keen to do away with all such crossings - this will take a lot of time and money - but they have to start somewhere and Ufton is both notorious and easy to replace.
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Apr 25 2015, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 25 2015, 04:25 PM) From what I understand Network Rail are keen to do away with all such crossings - this will take a lot of time and money They are, ever since Hixon. Late 60's!! QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 25 2015, 04:25 PM) .- but they have to start somewhere and Ufton is both notorious and easy to replace. Easy to replace? I would suggest than many are easier?
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Apr 25 2015, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 25 2015, 07:10 PM) Easy to replace? I would suggest than many are easier? I'm no expert (not even close) but it's a simple bridge, plenty of space to build it - where do they come easier? Just thinking of the few that I know (any sort of gated road crossing) - Thatcham, cramped, adjacent canal and river, station access; Hamstead Marshall, better but still constrained to the south; Wokingham - in the middle of the town. I'm sure there will be plenty more as easy as Ufton, but there can't be many easier road crossings unless they can simply close the road.
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Apr 26 2015, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE (blackdog @ Apr 25 2015, 09:34 PM) I'm no expert (not even close) but it's a simple bridge, plenty of space to build it - where do they come easier? Just thinking of the few that I know (any sort of gated road crossing) - Thatcham, cramped, adjacent canal and river, station access; Hamstead Marshall, better but still constrained to the south; Wokingham - in the middle of the town. I'm sure there will be plenty more as easy as Ufton, but there can't be many easier road crossings unless they can simply close the road. The replacement doesn't necessarily need to be in exactly the same place. Thatcham is a good example, where if there had been some even just adequate thought in past strategic plans, a better crossing would have been in place and paid for by now.
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Gazzadp Ufton Nervet level crossing. Apr 21 2015, 06:46 PM Biker1 QUOTE (Gazzadp @ Apr 21 2015, 07:46 PM) I... Apr 22 2015, 07:04 AM Lee But no one has died at Thatcham
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Ufton was never a sa... Apr 27 2015, 04:51 AM On the edge QUOTE (Biker1 @ Apr 27 2015, 05:51 AM) £8... Apr 27 2015, 05:47 AM Biker1 " the scene of one of the worst train crashes... Oct 29 2016, 03:46 PM
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