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GMR
post Mar 5 2015, 05:44 PM
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On another thread, Motormouth said, "If I WERE to Vote, I'd vote UKIP.Not because I'm a racist prick but ..." etc

Why do people accuse UKIP of being racist because they want control over who comes here, when I would say that the EU is actually racist. UKIP's policies want those that will work, from all over the world, not just the EU (which will include the Good, Bad and the Ugly).

Before anybody says it, I know it is down to individual countries who decide who comes into their country, however, with the pressure from the people of those countries (to their governments) about the flood of immigrants their only options would be to stop those from outside the EU. This would include African, Asia, Americas, and Australia. The EU is basically white and only about 4% are black (I read those figures a few years ago). Therefore, the combined policy of outside immigration could curtail Black or Asians from coming into the EU. I would say this was racist and wrong. UKIPs policy concerning immigration/ compared to EU's creates more diversity and racial/ ethnicity than the EU's policy (or individual countries) have. EU's eventual - combined - policies over immigration could dilute certain ethnicities from the EU.




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Squelchy
post Mar 13 2015, 04:00 AM
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They do say that you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep.

Whilst it is a given that all parties will have their share of looney tunes supporters, UKIP does seem to have become the party for racists.

Find a racist and there's an above average chance they'll be supporting UKIP in May.

You have to wonder what attracts them.

Personally, I don't think the NHS should be opened up to 'the marketplace', I think legalising handguns is a dumb idea, I don't admire Putin and have no wish to join forces with him, I also don't support fox hunting, fracking, and I think restaurants and pubs smell better without exhaled smoke in them, thus UKIP will have to forego my company.
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post Mar 13 2015, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE (Squelchy @ Mar 13 2015, 04:00 AM) *
They do say that you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep.

Whilst it is a given that all parties will have their share of looney tunes supporters, UKIP does seem to have become the party for racists.

Find a racist and there's an above average chance they'll be supporting UKIP in May.

You have to wonder what attracts them.


Personally, I don't think the NHS should be opened up to 'the marketplace', I think legalising handguns is a dumb idea, I don't admire Putin and have no wish to join forces with him, I also don't support fox hunting, fracking, and I think restaurants and pubs smell better without exhaled smoke in them, thus UKIP will have to forego my company.



You do work for the BBC don't you? What utter utter drivel.


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post Mar 13 2015, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Mar 13 2015, 07:43 AM) *
You do work for the BBC don't you? What utter utter drivel.


Wow! Touched a nerve did he?

Are you saying racists aren't attratcted to UKIP?

I think Squelchy's right in the observation that all parties attract some daft buggers but UKIP seems to be a magnet for racists. He or she wondered what it was that attracted them. The rest of the points made are also UKIP policies.

So what part is drivel?

Please try and answer.
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post Mar 13 2015, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Mar 13 2015, 08:57 AM) *
Wow! Touched a nerve did he?

Are you saying racists aren't attratcted to UKIP?

I think Squelchy's right in the observation that all parties attract some daft buggers but UKIP seems to be a magnet for racists. He or she wondered what it was that attracted them. The rest of the points made are also UKIP policies.

So what part is drivel?

Please try and answer.



That's exactly it, 'seems to'. In all the years I have had the privilege to vote, I have never seen such a blatant surge of anti shown by the media. Read and listen to what is said by Farage, then read and see the interpretation provided by good ol' papers,tv and politicians.


The rest of Squelchy's comments follow suit.


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post Mar 14 2015, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (x2lls @ Mar 13 2015, 09:27 PM) *
That's exactly it, 'seems to'. In all the years I have had the privilege to vote, I have never seen such a blatant surge of anti shown by the media. Read and listen to what is said by Farage, then read and see the interpretation provided by good ol' papers,tv and politicians.


The rest of Squelchy's comments follow suit.



Excellent. So those are NOT UKIP policies then? And the papers, tv, and politicians are all wrong. Paranoia anyone?
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post Mar 14 2015, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (Rusty Bullet @ Mar 14 2015, 10:26 AM) *
Excellent. So those are NOT UKIP policies then? And the papers, tv, and politicians are all wrong. Paranoia anyone?


The thing is Rusty a lot of people have lost faith in the "system".
That's why we are voting UKIP. Call it a two fingered salute if you like.
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