Local Petrol Prices Options

[Biker1]

Just been up to Stafford today to move my son down from university and paid 113.9 per litre in a local petrol station.

The local ASDA was the same price.

119.9 is the cheapest I can find it locally.

Why the marked difference between them & us?

Is it something to do with the transport of the stuff or just a measure of the local cost of living?

Whatever it is we are loosing out.

[Jayjay]

Just been up to Stafford today to move my son down from university and paid 113.9 per litre in a local petrol station.

The local ASDA was the same price.

119.9 is the cheapest I can find it locally.

Why the marked difference between them & us?

Is it something to do with the transport of the stuff or just a measure of the local cost of living?

Whatever it is we are loosing out.

Followed the petrol tanker from Sainsburys Newbury to Sainsburys Calcot. Newbury is far dearer than Calcot yet from the same tanker. Beer is far cheaper in the Midlands than Newbury yet it is brewed in Reading.

[Blake]

Makes no sense does it...

It's clear we are being ripped off. Boycott them. I buy my gas when I drive to Reading or elsewhere.

[oldharry]

Just been up to Stafford today to move my son down from university and paid 113.9 per litre in a local petrol station.

The local ASDA was the same price.

119.9 is the cheapest I can find it locally.

On 30 May it was 115.9 at Morrisons in Warminster.

Is it something to do with the transport of the stuff or just a measure of the local cost of living?

Whatever it is we are loosing out.

Or LOSING out, to use correct English.

[gel]

On 30 May it was 115.9 at Morrisons in Warminster.


Or LOSING out, to use correct English.

Remarkable (Unleaded) uniformity in Newbury; Wantage Sainsbury's is often cheaper than Newbury, despite Wantage having little competition.

Chieveley Motor Company Thatcham 5.46 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010
Shell Newbury Newbury 5.88 miles 119.9p 07-06-2010

Sainsburys Newbury Newbury 6.76 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010
Tesco Newbury Extra Newbury 7.79 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010

Falkland Service Station Newbury 7.81 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010
Sainsburys Wantage Wantage 8.84 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010

Bp Georgetown Didcot 9.73 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010
Shell Georgetown Didcot 9.98 miles 119.9p 07-06-2010

Berkshire Downs Filling Station Didcot 5.53 miles 120.9p 08-06-2010
Bellingers Service Station Wantage 9.69 miles 120.9p

Sainsburys Oxford £1.179
Asda Fareham & Eastleigh (Near Fawley refinery) £1.139

[Berkshirelad]

Followed the petrol tanker from Sainsburys Newbury to Sainsburys Calcot. Newbury is far dearer than Calcot yet from the same tanker. Beer is far cheaper in the Midlands than Newbury yet it is brewed in Reading.

However (and I accept that it doesn't cover all of the difference), the tanker has to travel further from the refinery. AIUI, Sainsbury's petrol comes from Essex, not Fawley.

One of the reasons that motorway fuel is so expensive is that to deliver it to a motorway service area (MSA) involves not only sending the tanker and driver along the motorway to the MSA, but also onto at least the next junction to get back.

The main brewery in Reading (Courage/Fosters) closed months ago. The majority of beer is brewed in the Midlands - Burton and Northampton.

[Guest_Newburymafia_*]

I think that it's a bit laughable that £1.13 is considered the cheap option!

[dannyboy]

One of the reasons that motorway fuel is so expensive is that to deliver it to a motorway service area involves not only sending the tanker and driver along the motorway to the MSA, but also onto at least the next junction to get back.

Cripes & I thought it was the petrol companies exploiting their captive market!

[Rachel]

Remarkable (Unleaded) uniformity in Newbury; Wantage Sainsbury's is often cheaper than Newbury, despite Wantage having little competition.

Chieveley Motor Company Thatcham 5.46 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010
Shell Newbury Newbury 5.88 miles 119.9p 07-06-2010

Sainsburys Newbury Newbury 6.76 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010
Tesco Newbury Extra Newbury 7.79 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010

Falkland Service Station Newbury 7.81 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010
Sainsburys Wantage Wantage 8.84 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010

Bp Georgetown Didcot 9.73 miles 119.9p 08-06-2010
Shell Georgetown Didcot 9.98 miles 119.9p 07-06-2010

Berkshire Downs Filling Station Didcot 5.53 miles 120.9p 08-06-2010
Bellingers Service Station Wantage 9.69 miles 120.9p

Sainsburys Oxford £1.179
Asda Fareham & Eastleigh (Near Fawley refinery) £1.139

Swindon is always cheaper, has been 113.9p for a fortnight in Asda, I pressumed that it was due to the refinery location (Bristol???) but also the competition too.

[Biker1]

Or LOSING out, to use correct English.

Here we go again ANOTHER grammar / spelling correcter!

[Biker1]

I think that it's a bit laughable that £1.13 is considered the cheap option!

I didn't say it was cheap just noted the price difference.

£113.9 is still not cheap.

Will be even more when the next duty rise and VAT increase is added.

[misc]

Here we go again ANOTHER grammar / spelling correcter!

corrector

[Biker1]

corrector

I KNEW someone would take the bait!

[JeffG]

Here we go again ANOTHER grammar / spelling correcter!

Never mind. I don't think we have a big problem. This from another forum:

To message 160
".....me and my family thought it was really ..."
should be "my family and I thought ...."
Where did you go to school? I shall make sure that my children attend elsewhere.

Message 163
That was a completely unnecesary and insulting comment, Hazel. You are questioning somebody elses grammar, but your manners are disgraceful and that is much worse.

To Message 164
"but your manners are disgraceful and that is much worse."
How will the poster learn if no-one mentions it?

[oldharry]

Here we go again ANOTHER grammar / spelling correcter!

It is more a correction of usage than grammar or spelling. Lose and loose have different meanings, as you will find out if you consult a dictionary.

[Iommi]

It is more a correction of usage than grammar or spelling. Lose and loose have different meanings, as you will find out if you consult a dictionary.

It is a spelling error (this can be proven by the fact you knew what word should have been used) and I think picking people up on them is one of the most tedious things people can do, on a voluntary Internet forum. Not to mention arrogant and rude.

[Darren]

Morrisons in Reading, today was £113.9

[Strafin]

If people don't spell properly and use good grammar once or twice I don't care. If it becomes a regular thing I take the poster much less seriously.

[Biker1]

It is a spelling error (this can be proven by the fact you knew what word should have been used) and I think picking people up on them is one of the most tedious things people can do, on a voluntary Internet forum. Not to mention arrogant and rude.

Agreade!

If all grammatical errors were picked up on then it would become VERY tedious.
(Usually typos rather than a show of ignorance.)

Back to the subject - a big difference in fuel price even 18 miles apart.

I wonder why this is - perhaps we need more competition in Newbury?

6p a litre difference might not seem much but it soon adds up.

[JeffG]

Americans pay roughly 50p per litre. And then they have the temerity to go and wreck BP's share price which affects all our pension funds, conveniently ignoring the fact it was an oil rig belonging to an American company staffed by Americans that blew up in the first place. I think Halliburton was in there somewhere, too.

[JMH]

Agreade!

If all grammatical errors were picked up on then it would become VERY tedious.
(Usually typos rather than a show of ignorance.)

I think we all also, have to appreciate the fact that maybe not all forum members are British born and bred?

[Andy1]

If people don't spell properly and use good grammar once or twice I don't care. If it becomes a regular thing I take the poster much less seriously.

That'll help in finding the best local petrol prices

[dannyboy]

Americans pay roughly 50p per litre. And then they have the temerity to go and wreck BP's share price which affects all our pension funds, conveniently ignoring the fact it was an oil rig belonging to an American company staffed by Americans that blew up in the first place. I think Halliburton was in there somewhere, too.

It is a rouse to let American companies get their hands on BP's US oil & gas reserves.

There is a lot more going on than mere oil in the ocean.

[oldharry]

If people don't spell properly and use good grammar once or twice I don't care. If it becomes a regular thing I take the poster much less seriously.

Hear, hear.

[Iommi]

If people don't spell properly and use good grammar once or twice I don't care. If it becomes a regular thing I take the poster much less seriously.

Hear, hear.

That's your prerogative, for me, I'd rather listen to the message than worry that someone might have made a typing error, or simply can't spell. As has already been suggested, there might be people who are not English. There could also be people who have learning difficulties.

A Headmaster of mine was once talking to our assembly. He described how he had received a letter that was poorly written and was hard to understand. At some point after, he got to meet this person and discovered that the person who wrote the letter was blind. Our Headmaster described how disappointed he was with himself that he didn't initially give this person the benefit of the doubt.

At the end of the day we all have different abilities and we should be more considerate of one another if we are to consider ourselves civilised.

Fair enough, correct someone out of courtesy, but there is no need for rudeness. I find life can be unforgiving to the pompous.

[JeffG]

As has already been suggested, there might be people who are not English.

Without prolonging this too much, someone who learnt English as a foreign language is far less likely to make the sort of errors we have been talking about, so that's not a real argument.

[Iommi]

Without prolonging this too much, someone who learnt English as a foreign language is far less likely to make the sort of errors we have been talking about, so that's not a real argument.

So you will anyway!

Anyway, I think your argument is merely supposition, which I believe invalidates your claim that my argument is not 'real' - whatever that means in English.

I still believe, however, an open Internet forum is not a place for grammar snobbery. I also have no doubt that there would be scholars in the art of 'correct' English usage, that could pick holes in anyone that posts here.

[JeffG]

I still believe, however, an open Internet forum is not a place for grammar snobbery.

I fully agree with you.

See the quote in my post #14 for a prime example of this

[Iommi]

I fully agree with you. See the quote in my post #14 for a prime example of this

That is a particularly good example!

[Biker1]

Thought I would raise this one again as it still seems to be an issue locally.

Had cause to travel to Somerset today and...........

Unleaded Tesco Weston-Super-Mare.......£130.9 per litre

Unleaded Tesco Newbury.......................£135.9 per litre!

Newburians are being scammed once again!!

[GrumblingAgain]

Thought I would raise this one again as it still seems to be an issue locally.

Had cause to travel to Somerset today and...........

Unleaded Tesco Weston-Super-Mare.......£130.9 per litre

Unleaded Tesco Newbury.......................£135.9 per litre!

Newburians are being scammed once again!!

Isn't it about time they ditched the stupid .9 pricing and indeed pricing in pennies (even though Biker1 seems to have found the most expensive petrol in the world ) ?

It fools no one into thinking they are getting a bargain, besides, I have never seen a price set at .2 or .6 or whatever, it's always .9.

Petrol companies, why not be honest and just say it's £1.31 or £1.36 a litre to quote the intended pricing above.

[Biker1]

Isn't it about time they ditched the stupid .9 pricing and indeed pricing in pennies (even though Biker1 seems to have found the most expensive petrol in the world ) ?

It fools no one into thinking they are getting a bargain, besides, I have never seen a price set at .2 or .6 or whatever, it's always .9.

Petrol companies, why not be honest and just say it's £1.31 or £1.36 a litre to quote the intended pricing above.

Ooops yes , sorry - well you all know what I mean!
I forgot you need 2 decimal points to quote petrol prices.

[Ron]

Ooops yes , sorry - well you all know what I mean!
I forgot you need 2 decimal points to quote petrol prices.

You don't have to go as far as Somerset. It was 5p a litre cheaper in Swindon than in Newbury.

[JeffG]

I forgot you need 2 decimal points to quote petrol prices.

No you don't.

[Andy Capp]

I forgot you need 2 decimal points to quote petrol prices.

Only if you use pounds sterling as units!

130p = £1.30

[JeffG]

Only if you use pounds sterling as units!

130p = £1.30

You still can't have two decimal points!

[Roost]

You can,

but it may be wrong to do so!

[Strafin]

I think you are talking about decimal places, not decimal points.

[Guest_xjay1337_*]

Fuel prices vary hugely for no reason that I can see. In Reading/Theale, Petrol from a big supermarket chain or Shell near J13 of the M4 is something like £1.369, I saw in Kent diesel for £1.329!!!! However in Newbury is is often hovering just above the £1.40 mark!

I agree about removing the ".9", however you can guarantee it will be rounded up so £1.399 will be £1.40. However I'd be interested in what would happen if you put exactly 1 litre of fuel into your car. Would you be expected to give them nine-tenths of a penny or would it be "rounded up" anyway......

[Biker1]

You still can't have two decimal points!

£1.30.9per litre
How many is that??
(Or was Grumbling Again wrong to correct me and I was right all along?)
(Or should it be 130.9p per litre?)

[Andy Capp]

As the unit is pounds sterling, it would be: £1.309
In pence it would be: 130.9p

[Biker1]

As the unit is pounds sterling, it would be: £1.309
In pence it would be: 130.9p

Got it!

Cheers.

(I did get my "O" Level maths!! )

[JeffG]

(I did get my "O" Level maths!! )

I think it just lapsed!

[Andy Capp]

Got it!

Cheers.

(I did get my "O" Level maths!! )

I didn't!

[On the edge]

I didn't!

Join the club. I don't even think I could do it today - it looks even harder!

[Biker1]

Join the club. I don't even think I could do it today - it looks even harder!

Harder today? You must be joking!

[JeffG]

Harder today? You must be joking!

Well, I did Pure Maths and Applied Maths (separate subjects) at A level many years ago, and I still had problems with a few of these. I haven't a clue what the difference between mode and median is, for example.

Not saying it's easier or harder - just different. How did you get on?

[Andy Capp]

I believe mode means most frequently occurring and median means the middle value if all values were lined up in order.

b £5
c £7.5

[JeffG]

Thanks. I really should look it up. Believe it or not, statistics wasn't in the syllabus when I took maths. And don't get me started about matrices, which it seems every primary school kid knows about these days. (Well maybe I exaggerate a bit...)

[On the edge]

I believe mode means most frequently occurring and median means the middle value if all values were lined up in order.

b £5
c £7.5

Aw come on, Andy, that's letting the side down! Mode is a very small ladies dress shop and Median is a TV station for people with dyslexia.

[JMH]

Harder today? You must be joking!

Clearly whoever submitted this paper agreed with you!!


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[Biker1]

Crap maths apart and back to the point, why are petrol prices so much more expensive in and around Newbury compared with much of the rest of the country?

[Andy Capp]

Crap maths apart and back to the point, why are petrol prices so much more expensive in and around Newbury compared with much of the rest of the country?

I have noticed the petrol stations along the A4 have been cheaper than Tesco and Sainsbury's lately.

[dannyboy]

I have noticed the petrol stations along the A4 have been cheaper than Tesco and Sainsbury's lately.

That goes in cycles. A cartel methinks.....

[Guest_xjay1337_*]

Crap maths apart and back to the point, why are petrol prices so much more expensive in and around Newbury compared with much of the rest of the country?

Punishment of the middle classes.

[Gumbo]

Crap maths apart and back to the point, why are petrol prices so much more expensive in and around Newbury compared with much of the rest of the country?

Do you ever get the feeling this question is getting ignored? Really really does annoy me. I was in Sussex at the weekend and the average price down there was £1.30 compared to the £1.35 we get stung for. Personally I would expect our local MP to be working on this on behalf of his constituents to ensure we are not being ripped off!

[Andy Capp]

We get charged what they can get away with. I've noticed recently that the petrol stations on the A4 are either cheaper or the same as Tesco, Sainsbury's, etc. They usually are a penny or two more.

[Bloggo]

The reality is that they can charge what they like and we will pay or not use our cars so much.
Either way the government wins.
More cars on the road=more tax.
Less cars on the road= less road maintenance/building.
Bad news is that you can bet that the price will be going up again soon.

[Berkshirelad]

I noticed that in the last couple of days Tesco and Sainsbury's in Newbury at 134.9; Chieveley Service Station is 133'9 and Morrisons in Reading is 128.9 !

[Biker1]

Thought I'd update on this just out of interest as we in Newbury still seem to be paying over the odds..........

High Wycombe today litre of diesel 141.9p

Newbury today litre of diesel 146.9p

[Newbelly]

Thought I'd update on this just out of interest as we in Newbury still seem to be paying over the odds..........

High Wycombe today litre of diesel 131.9p

Newbury today litre of diesel 136.9p

136.9p for diesel? Which garage?

I paid more than that last time I filled up.

[Ron]

Thought I'd update on this just out of interest as we in Newbury still seem to be paying over the odds..........

High Wycombe today litre of diesel 131.9p

Newbury today litre of diesel 136.9p

Hey! Where do you get diesel for 136.9p per litre?

[Biker1]

Sorry, edited!!!

[Newbelly]

Sorry, edited!!!

Thank you. I thought I was going mad there for a moment!

[NWNREADER]

Thank you. I thought I was going mad there for a moment!

The change doesn't mean you are not......

That Wycombe price will be for the ASDA just of the M40 at Handy Cross....... Still not worth the drive, even to
Lower Earley

[gel]

Oddly Wantage with very few stations is cheaper for Diesel than Newbury:


Sainsburys Wantage
Limborough Road, Wantage, Oxfordshire, OX12 9AJ

14.82 miles

143.9p

May 3rd

Broadway Motors (wantage) Ltd
Wallingford Street, Wantage, Oxfordshire, OX12 8BB

14.52 miles

145.9p

May 3rd

Sainsburys Newbury
Kings Road, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 5RB

0.49 miles

146.9p

May 3rd

A34 Shell Tothill Service Area
Newbury Bypass, Newbury, Berkshire, RG20 9BX

3.94 miles

146.9p

May 2nd


Shell Newbury
Bath Road, Speen, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 1QT

1.18 miles

147.9p

May 2nd

Tesco Newbury Extra
Pinchington Lane, Greenham, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 7HU

1.36 miles

147.9p

May 3rd

Tesco Abingdon Extra
Marcham Road, Abingdon, Oxfordshire, OX14 1TZ

12.26 miles

145.9p

May 3rd

Asda High Wycombe

17.18 miles

142.7p

May 3rd



Morrisons High Wycombe
Bellfield Road, Temple End, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, HP13 5XX

19.34 miles

142.9p

May

[NWNREADER]

Oddly Wantage with very few stations is cheaper for Diesel than Newbury:


Sainsburys Wantage
Limborough Road, Wantage, Oxfordshire, OX12 9AJ

14.82 miles

143.9p

May 3rd



Broadway Motors (wantage) Ltd
Wallingford Street, Wantage, Oxfordshire, OX12 8BB

14.52 miles

145.9p

May 3rd



Sainsburys Newbury
Kings Road, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 5RB

0.49 miles

146.9p

May 3rd



A34 Shell Tothill Service Area
Newbury Bypass, Newbury, Berkshire, RG20 9BX

3.94 miles

146.9p

May 2nd





Shell Newbury
Bath Road, Speen, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 1QT

1.18 miles

147.9p

May 2nd


Tesco Newbury Extra
Pinchington Lane, Greenham, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 7HU

1.36 miles

147.9p

May 3rd

Must cost you a fortune driving round to check.......

[Newbelly]

Thank you, gel - informative.

[gel]

Must cost you a fortune driving round to check.......

Why drive around, when you can check on the interweb?

[Biker1]

The change doesn't mean you are not......

That Wycombe price will be for the ASDA just of the M40 at Handy Cross....... Still not worth the drive, even to
Lower Earley

Actually it was an Esso garage on the A4010.
Not saying it's worth the drive obviously but why the difference?
Newbury seems to pay a premium.

[Andy Capp]

Who needs to shop around when the town is full of humped back Tories and 'champagne' Liberal Democrats with loads of cash.

[NWNREADER]

There have been many moans over the years that fuel in Newbury costs more than elsewhere. Whilst not totally true all the time, it is common for local fuel to be a couple of p. higher than nearby towns. In pure business terms, we pay what the market will bear. For the most part we suffer from the generalised view of the area being 'affluent'. Why would anyone who can get 140p for a litres (PAH!) sell it for less?
The Government will not apply pressure, as they rake in the extra VAT. Thus, by engineering the price structure in the surrounding areas the companies can ensure this particular market area pays, with us rich citizens only able to save cost by travelling to Reading etc.....

[Biker1]

There have been many moans over the years that fuel in Newbury costs more than elsewhere. Whilst not totally true all the time, it is common for local fuel to be a couple of p. higher than nearby towns. In pure business terms, we pay what the market will bear. For the most part we suffer from the generalised view of the area being 'affluent'. Why would anyone who can get 140p for a litres (PAH!) sell it for less?
The Government will not apply pressure, as they rake in the extra VAT. Thus, by engineering the price structure in the surrounding areas the companies can ensure this particular market area pays, with us rich citizens only able to save cost by travelling to Reading etc.....

Yes but surely there has to be some sort of price fixing "cartel"going on here?
Why are the prices at all the major outlets exactly the same?
No one, it seems around here, is prepared to undercut as must happen in other towns such as High Wycombe.
Otherwise, why the price difference?
It's the same stuff from the same refineries with the same transport costs?

[user23]

Yes but surely there has to be some sort of price fixing "cartel"going on here?
Why are the prices at all the major outlets exactly the same?
No one, it seems around here, is prepared to undercut as must happen in other towns such as High Wycombe.
Otherwise, why the price difference?
It's the same stuff from the same refineries with the same transport costs?

West Berkshire is seen as being amongst the most affluent areas in the country by some, and as long as people are willing to pay these prices for fuel they'll still charge them.

In my opinion the best solution is to reduce your consumption, that way you'll pay less and send a message that you're unwilling or can't afford the prices thy charge.

[Biker1]

West Berkshire is seen as being amongst the most affluent areas in the country by some, and as long as people are willing to pay these prices for fuel they'll still charge them.

In my opinion the best solution is to reduce your consumption, that way you'll pay less and send a message that you're unwilling or can't afford the prices thy charge.

Not sure it's a case of "willing to pay these prices" we have no choice!
I agree about consumption and have taken measures, as have most others, but modern life means we have to buy some!

[user23]

Not sure it's a case of "willing to pay these prices" we have no choice!
I agree about consumption and have taken measures, as have most others, but modern life means we have to buy some!

Of course you have a choice, no one's forcing you to buy fuel. I have a car and haven't filled it up since March, and even then only half-way.

Car share where you can, walk or cycle where you can, take public transport if possible and this will all keep your fuel bills down.

Stop seeing your car as a necessity and view it as a luxury and you'll soon reduce your fuel bills.

[NWNREADER]

Of course you have a choice, no one's forcing you to buy fuel. I have a car and haven't filled it up since March, and even then only filled it half-way.

Car share where you can, walk or cycle where you can, take public transport if possible and this will all keep your fuel bills down.

Stop seeing your car as a necessity and view it as a luxury and you'll soon reduce your fuel bills.

Unless you have a 40 mile commute to work when the public transport option is unrealistic in terms of time and more expensive that the running cost of the car..........

Interesting, the 'wealth' argument - which is one I had pretty much accepted. I work in leafy Surrey, where I now find fuel is 2-3p a litre cheaper than Newbury area.

Newbury is in an odd situation, being not exactly a big town, so no huge turnover to bring economy of scale, as well as nowhere of size in a reasonable distance to enable buyer power to force the issue: no point driving to Reading just to fill up...

[Andy Capp]

Of course you have a choice, no one's forcing you to buy fuel. I have a car and haven't filled it up since March ...

Considering you live and work in town, that isn't that surprising.

[user23]

Unless you have a 40 mile commute to work when the public transport option is unrealistic in terms of time and more expensive that the running cost of the car..........

If a 40 mile commute to work is no longer economically viable perhaps it's time to look for a job closer to home?

[Andy Capp]

If a 40 mile commute to work is no longer economically viable perhaps it's time to look for a job closer to home?

...and there are loads of them about at the moment.

[Jayjay]

It isn't just petrol that is more expensive. Courage beer was brewed in Reading, yet cheaper to buy in Birmingham than Berkshire. Greggs charges differing prices dependant on where their stores are located. Butchers and greengrocers in the north are cheaper than south. I have always presumed that this is due to higher rents/wages in the south.

[Jayjay]

If a 40 mile commute to work is no longer economically viable perhaps it's time to look for a job closer to home?

Or work in south of Slough and get the London weighting allowance, which I find really annoying.

[NWNREADER]

...and there are loads of them about at the moment.

When it takes you a year to get the job you have (from none), and your post is secure in an organisation slimming by 25000 (which rather tends to raise the stakes) and you are of a certain maturity, there are some things that are easy to say from outside.....

[user23]

...and there are loads of them about at the moment.

The unemployment rate at nationally is about 8.5%, in West Berkshire it's 1.8% so there do seem to be locally.

If you don't want to change jobs ask for more flexible working at your current employer or look at car sharing with your colleagues. These are all far better options than moaning that one is being "forced" to buy fuel.

[Andy Capp]

The unemployment rate at nationally is about 8.5%, in West Berkshire it's 1.8% so there do seem to be locally.

That's unemployment figures, not positions.

[Andy Capp]

The unemployment rate at nationally is about 8.5%, in West Berkshire it's 1.8% so there do seem to be locally.

If you don't want to change jobs ask for more flexible working at your current employer or look at car sharing with your colleagues.

What would we do without your useful help!

[NWNREADER]

The unemployment rate at nationally is about 8.5%, in West Berkshire it's 1.8% so there do seem to be locally.

If you don't want to change jobs ask for more flexible working at your current employer or look at car sharing with your colleagues. These are all far better options than moaning that one is being "forced" to buy fuel.

I so appreciate your help, I really do, but my job cannot be done from home, I already work flexibly, and pray tell how many colleagues work there/live (near) here. Car share works as long as there is a guarantee of coinciding arrival and departure times too.........

I am not 'moaning', as I knew all the issues (apart from the 100% rise in price of fuel) when I started. I have also changed cars to one with better economy. All I seek to get across is everyone has different circumstances, preferences etc. Your preferred option is just that. Dodgy ground to get close to being sanctimonious about how another should live their life....

Plus I really like my job, the people I work with, and the outcomes I achieve......

[Jayjay]

For anyone commuting work, where does the cut off point come when it is no longer economical to keep that job? I should imagine it would be very close for several people. I also think that suppliers and stores cannot afford to absorb the extra cost of delivery.

[NWNREADER]

Apologies for the mission creep, but women going back to work after having a baby and incurring the cost of childminders are similarly stuck with the economic viability conundrum. The activity of working has a greater human value than just the income it creates.

Fred Herzberg and his Hygiene Factors ..........

[NWNREADER]

Apologies for the mission creep, but women going back to work after having a baby and incurring the cost of childminders are similarly stuck with the economic viability conundrum. The activity of working has a greater human value than just the income it creates.

Fred Herzberg and his Hygiene Factors ..........

[user23]

I so appreciate your help, I really do, but my job cannot be done from home, I already work flexibly, and pray tell how many colleagues work there/live (near) here. Car share works as long as there is a guarantee of coinciding arrival and departure times too.........

I am not 'moaning', as I knew all the issues (apart from the 100% rise in price of fuel) when I started. I have also changed cars to one with better economy. All I seek to get across is everyone has different circumstances, preferences etc. Your preferred option is just that. Dodgy ground to get close to being sanctimonious about how another should live their life....

Plus I really like my job, the people I work with, and the outcomes I achieve......

Forgive me if I came across as sanctimonious it wasn't my intention. I was merely pointing out courses of action for those who feel they spend too much on fuel, traveling to work.

I was also just offering my experience that it is possible to live without using a car as part of one's daily routine provided one makes the life choices to do so.

[Biker1]

All this doesn't explain why, and some of us unfortunates have to buy it, fuel is more expensive in Newbury than other parts.
I don't buy this "affluent" bit.
Something is going on here.
People would soon have a "moan" if they had to pay more for gas or electricity than others wouldn't they?
Hang on........perhaps we do??
Oh and User your "forced" in quotation marks implies that no-one is and we all buy it just for the fun of it. I think you will find, although perhaps not in your case, that to many it is an essential commodity.

[Strafin]

Forgive me if I came across as sanctimonious it wasn't my intention. I was merely pointing out courses of action for those who feel they spend too much on fuel, traveling to work.

I was also just offering my experience that it is possible to live without using a car as part of one's daily routine provided one makes the life choices to do so.

As a life choice I could get some girl pregnant, and give up work altogether! I would get benefits and would be far better off and could then do without a car. Thanks for the advice User!

[user23]

Oh and User your "forced" in quotation marks implies that no-one is and we all buy it just for the fun of it. I think you will find, although perhaps not in your case, that to many it is an essential commodity.

It's an essential commodity because you have chosen to make it so.

Presumably it wasn't an essential commodity to you personally when you were 15 but is now, so somewhere between then and now you've made a series of choices that have led to it becoming so.

As a life choice I could get some girl pregnant, and give up work altogether! I would get benefits and would be far better off and could then do without a car. Thanks for the advice User!

I suspect that if you "got some girl pregnant" the CSA would be after you and you'd have to do a lot more work or get yourself a Batman outfit.

[Strafin]

Why would the CSA be after me? Could I not live with the girl? Could we not claim benefits together?

[JeffG]

Why would the CSA be after me? Could I not live with the girl? Could we not claim benefits together?

Yes, but what would your wife say?

[user23]

Why would the CSA be after me? Could I not live with the girl? Could we not claim benefits together?

I could be totally wrong here, but don't you already have a partner?

I seem to remember you mentioning something in the past, apologies if not though.

[Strafin]

Forget the wife... Yes I am married but my point is that I could make the choice (if I was daft enough to listen to User), to get someone pregnant, leave my wife and job and have a much better lifestyle funded on benefits.

[user23]

Forget the wife... Yes I am married but my point is that I could make the choice (if I was daft enough to listen to User), to get someone pregnant, leave my wife and job and have a much better lifestyle funded on benefits.

You'd most likely loose at least half of what you currently jointly own with your wife and gain £80 per month in Child Benefit, assuming "the girl" doesn't already have children in which case it would be less.

Is half of what you currently own worth £80 per month? If not this would be a bad move financially.

[Cognosco]

You'd most likely loose at least half of what you currently jointly own with your wife and gain £80 per month in Child Benefit, assuming "the girl" doesn't already have children in which case it would be less.

Is half of what you currently own worth £80 per month? If not this would be a bad move financially.

You obviously don't know his exact circumatances to be able to offer financial advice so best leave well alone!

The point is why is fuel, amongst other items, dearer in Newbury than surrounding towns? Explain please?