Jihadis allowed, Journalists not., We are in the excrement. Options

[x2lls]

Lauren Southern, Martin Sellner and Brittany Pettibone.

All banned for what?

Lauren detained and interviewed(?) interrogated for made up BS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue...p;v=9Kzkgd-GLrk

Lord Pearson, who has raised the issue that Newres will not like. He was interviewed by Tommy Robinson in a very enlightening discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bjks3fmajM

[SirWilliam]

Lauren Southern, Martin Sellner and Brittany Pettibone.

All banned for what?

Lauren detained and interviewed(?) interrogated for made up BS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue...p;v=9Kzkgd-GLrk

Lord Pearson, who has raised the issue that Newres will not like. He was interviewed by Tommy Robinson in a very enlightening discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bjks3fmajM

Ut iam probatum est. They may well have this little interview on the history curriculum 100 years hence by which time a lot of suffering will have gone unaddressed.

[newres]

The fact that you take Tommy Robinson as anything other then ham a racist and hate stirring extremist says much about you.

[je suis Charlie]

Iraqi teenager guilty of carrying out London train bombing
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-s...g-idUKKCN1GS1GY

[SirWilliam]

Iraqi teenager guilty of carrying out London train bombing
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-s...g-idUKKCN1GS1GY

God only knows what he would have done had we not given him a home in this country. How much is his incarceration going to cost the british tax payer?

[newres]

Iraqi teenager guilty of carrying out London train bombing
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-s...g-idUKKCN1GS1GY

That seems a massive failure of security services and lucky not to have been far worse.

Hopefully when JC becomes PM our desire for supporting the US in their “war on terror” will diminish and we will be less of a target as a result.

[je suis Charlie]

Old Beardy man? PM? when even his own party are turning against him? Salisbury has exposed him as the self serving marxist he really is and swathes of people across the country now realise this country cannot rely on its security at his hands. Mans a relic of the sixties, needs putting in an old folks home.

Meanwhile the total grows;

"In Telford alone, the dedicated Child Sexual Exploitation Team based in the town, has since 2016, arrested 56 people, resulting in 29 charges, with a number of these investigations still ongoing. We invest a significant amount of resource in trying to identify offenders and bring them to justice for the crimes they commit."

With most of them involved in the takeaway food business (good cover) This story has legs. Unlike Old Beardy.

[x2lls]

The fact that you take Tommy Robinson as anything other then ham a racist and hate stirring extremist says much about you.

Your view of a man who has, for years, decades, been telling the world that what is happening right now
and has been ignored by the miserable examples of councilors, police and members of parliament is a B.L.O.O.D.Y disgrace.

Even the BBC have now admitted they and other media outlets got it wrong.


I don't suppose we will have a nice chat over a latte in Hyde Park Corner at around 15:00 on Sunday then?

You so disgust me. You are vile.

[newres]

Your view of a man who has, for years, decades, been telling the world that what is happening right now
and has been ignored by the miserable examples of councilors, police and members of parliament is a B.L.O.O.D.Y disgrace.

Even the BBC have now admitted they and other media outlets got it wrong.


I don't suppose we will have a nice chat over a latte in Hyde Park Corner at around 15:00 on Sunday then?

You so disgust me. You are vile.

You idolise a convicted fraudster and former leader of a far right racist party and yet you call me “vile”. Deliberate irony? You are also a keyboard warrior.

[newres]

Old Beardy man? PM? when even his own party are turning against him? Salisbury has exposed him as the self serving marxist he really is and swathes of people across the country now realise this country cannot rely on its security at his hands. Mans a relic of the sixties, needs putting in an old folks home.

Meanwhile the total grows;

"In Telford alone, the dedicated Child Sexual Exploitation Team based in the town, has since 2016, arrested 56 people, resulting in 29 charges, with a number of these investigations still ongoing. We invest a significant amount of resource in trying to identify offenders and bring them to justice for the crimes they commit."

With most of them involved in the takeaway food business (good cover) This story has legs. Unlike Old Beardy.

As far as I can see he’s sounding a note of caution before rushing to condemn. The government would certainly welcome a bogeyman at the moment and their refusal to supply a sample to Russia or an international body on chemical weapons is odd to say the least.

Plus the US does what Russia is accused of:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/mike-pompeo-...ommandos-2018-3

[Biker1]

That seems a massive failure of security services and lucky not to have been far worse.

Hopefully when JC becomes PM our desire for supporting the US in their “war on terror” will diminish and we will be less of a target as a result.

Not a nasty man intent on maiming and killing innocent people then, but "a massive failure of security services"?
We and other western countries will be a target until we become a caliphate.

[newres]

Not a nasty man intent on maiming and killing innocent people then, but "a massive failure of security services"?
We and other western countries will be a target until we become a caliphate.

I really cannot believe that there are people stupid enough to believe that. It’ll go on until we stop killing people and supporting those killing people Muslim countries I suspect.

[SirWilliam]

That seems a massive failure of security services and lucky not to have been far worse.

Hopefully when JC becomes PM our desire for supporting the US in their “war on terror” will diminish and we will be less of a target as a result.

Or an easier one. The only way we can stop random attacks is to deport everyone who may fit the profile of a potential terrorist, station the army at Dover and not allow anyone in or out. Now I doubt even a Hollywood script writer would propose that, so we need to accept these things are going to happen and start thinking outside the box as to how we can minimise it. People are not born muslim/christian/etc. but are indoctrinated at an early age, so if we only allowed religious teaching when adulthood was attained maybe, just maybe, fundamentalism would not raise it's ugly head.

[je suis Charlie]

I really cannot believe that there are people stupid enough to believe that. It’ll go on until we stop killing people and supporting those killing people Muslim countries I suspect.

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[Andy Capp]

Old Beardy man? PM? when even his own party are turning against him? Salisbury has exposed him as the self serving marxist he really is and swathes of people across the country now realise this country cannot rely on its security at his hands. Mans a relic of the sixties, needs putting in an old folks home.

Meanwhile the total grows;

"In Telford alone, the dedicated Child Sexual Exploitation Team based in the town, has since 2016, arrested 56 people, resulting in 29 charges, with a number of these investigations still ongoing. We invest a significant amount of resource in trying to identify offenders and bring them to justice for the crimes they commit."

With most of them involved in the takeaway food business (good cover) This story has legs. Unlike Old Beardy.

Old beardy also warned against most of the illegal folly of his own party and the Mobster Raving Humpback Torys who lapped up all the sabre rattling.

His opinions aren’t the worst examples of ego I have seen.

[newres]

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So you're stupid enough to believe it too?

[Biker1]

I really cannot believe that there are people stupid enough to believe that. It’ll go on until we stop killing people and supporting those killing people Muslim countries I suspect.

I could retaliate with "I cannot believe that there are people stupid enough not to believe it" but that would be childish and insulting wouldn't it?
No place for silly, insulting bickering on here!!

[je suis Charlie]

Old beardy also warned against most of the illegal folly of his own party and the Mobster Raving Humpback Torys who lapped up all the sabre rattling.

His opinions aren’t the worst examples of ego I have seen.

So, in a nutshell, the UK, NATO, USA, Europe in fact pretty much all of the western world including labours defence secretary believe it's Russia, but you believe an antiquated relic of the sixties. Sums you up really.

[je suis Charlie]

So you're stupid enough to believe it too?

Says the racist anti-Semite.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

So, in a nutshell, the UK, NATO, USA, Europe in fact pretty much all of the western world including labours defence secretary believe it's Russia, but you believe an antiquated relic of the sixties. Sums you up really.

Newres thinks it was Israel. One question I do have? Administering this novachok would render the people incapacitated within minutes and the 2 of them were seen walking coherently just a few minutes before they were found. How was it administered? Drone?

[newres]

So, in a nutshell, the UK, NATO, USA, Europe in fact pretty much all of the western world including labours defence secretary believe it's Russia, but you believe an antiquated relic of the sixties. Sums you up really.

But the Uk won’t share their samples.

[Turin Machine]

But the Uk won’t share their samples.

It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference if they did.

[newres]

It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference if they did.

Well at least it would be open. Don't forgot the dodgy dossier as well as how close Porton Down is. Are we really saying that Putin authorised it? Where's the evidence? I'm not saying Russians aren't responsible, but to accuse the government seems bizarre at this stage. There's clearly corruption throughout and dodgy mafia/oligarchs here in the UK, but the clamour to condemn Putin is at best undiplomatic.

[SirWilliam]

Well at least it would be open. Don't forgot the dodgy dossier as well as how close Porton Down is. Are we really saying that Putin authorised it? Where's the evidence? I'm not saying Russians aren't responsible, but to accuse the government seems bizarre at this stage. There's clearly corruption throughout and dodgy mafia/oligarchs here in the UK, but the clamour to condemn Putin is at best undiplomatic.

I tend to agree. Quite simply it would not be in Putin's interest to use such means when there are far simpler methods of assassination.
My immediate thought when the news broke was that the nerve agent had come from Porton Down, probably on "route" to a cell within the russian complex. That in no way infers the state instigated it though it would need to be orchestrated by someone in the politburo, and comrade Skripal was the local courier. This stuff is far to lethal just to chuck in the general direction of the victim without wiping out half of south wiltshire's population.
With the accompanying histeria of both sides we will probably never know the real truth which is probably more dangerous than doing nothing.

[Turin Machine]

Well at least it would be open. Don't forgot the dodgy dossier as well as how close Porton Down is. Are we really saying that Putin authorised it? Where's the evidence? I'm not saying Russians aren't responsible, but to accuse the government seems bizarre at this stage. There's clearly corruption throughout and dodgy mafia/oligarchs here in the UK, but the clamour to condemn Putin is at best undiplomatic.

Diplomacy means nothing to Putin and once nerve agents are used on the streets on Britain it goes beyond diplomacy. Russia cares not one fig for the law or for world opinion, Putin had been pushing for a showdown since the day he took over and wants to demonstrate once again that he is a strong leader.
What next? Aircraft accidentally shotdown when escorting russian planes out of our airspace? This is the country complicit in the downing of the passenger plane over Ukraine recently. They don't care, never have, never will.

[newres]

Diplomacy means nothing to Putin and once nerve agents are used on the streets on Britain it goes beyond diplomacy. Russia cares not one fig for the law or for world opinion, Putin had been pushing for a showdown since the day he took over and wants to demonstrate once again that he is a strong leader.
What next? Aircraft accidentally shotdown when escorting russian planes out of our airspace? This is the country complicit in the downing of the passenger plane over Ukraine recently. They don't care, never have, never will.

Still, where’s the proof and why is it not being shared?

[je suis Charlie]

Still, where’s the proof and why is it not being shared?

Typical lefty, sitting back whining and not picking. What do you want, an empty packet of nerve agent, russian writing, addressed to 'V Putin Esq' . Could you crawl any further up Corbyn s backside?

[newres]

Typical lefty, sitting back whining and not picking. What do you want, an empty packet of nerve agent, russian writing, addressed to 'V Putin Esq' . Could you crawl any further up Corbyn s backside?

I’m not the one whining. I’m the calm one waiting to be convinced. It’s the usual suspects here and nationally getting uptight. Did you believe Saddam could launch an attack on us in 40 minutes? I certainly didn’t. And guess what. Our government lied to us. And that was a Labour government! If it was the nerve agent they say it is, let someone Independant test it.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Typical lefty, sitting back whining and not picking. What do you want, an empty packet of nerve agent, russian writing, addressed to 'V Putin Esq' . Could you crawl any further up Corbyn s backside?

The porton down gals and guys will know exactly where this was "manufactured". I'm more concerned about the method of delivery. I suspect drone. What does Putin gain? Enhanced reputation as a strong man at home. Winning an election with a landslide and putting the fear of god up any russian that might think about "defecting". So bearing in mind all that I guess we did it or Mossad.😂

[Turin Machine]

The porton down gals and guys will know exactly where this was "manufactured". I'm more concerned about the method of delivery. I suspect drone. What does Putin gain? Enhanced reputation as a strong man at home. Winning an election with a landslide and putting the fear of god up any russian that might think about "defecting". So bearing in mind all that I guess we did it or Mossad.😂

Or it could have been Betty from the mothers union, but on balance probably Russia.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Or it could have been Betty from the mothers union, but on balance probably Russia.

Nope. Newres thinks its us. Everything in some peoples eyes is a conspiracy. I expect he also believes that 911 was a CIA plot of some kind...😂

[newres]

Or it could have been Betty from the mothers union, but on balance probably Russia.

Or Russians. Don't forget that both the US and Israel do have state sanctioned assassination programs so it wouldn't be surprising if they had one too. The US methods cause a lot more collateral damage.

[Andy Capp]

Typical lefty, sitting back whining and not picking. What do you want, an empty packet of nerve agent, russian writing, addressed to 'V Putin Esq' . Could you crawl any further up Corbyn s backside?

Perhaps we would like a rational government to act within the law. The way it is behaving causes doubt.

[Andy Capp]

So, in a nutshell, the UK, NATO, USA, Europe in fact pretty much all of the western world including labours defence secretary believe it's Russia, but you believe an antiquated relic of the sixties. Sums you up really.

Your response sums you and your like up.

[je suis Charlie]

Your response sums you and your like up.

That was almost coherent, almost.

[je suis Charlie]

Perhaps we would like a rational government to act within the law. The way it is behaving causes doubt.

Like your russian puppet masters obey the law? Don't make me laugh you train riding libtard.

[Turin Machine]

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[newres]

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It should be Trump, not Corbyn.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

It should be Trump, not Corbyn.

Because?

[newres]

Because?

I’m surprised you needed to ask. There’s more evidence of Russian collusion in Trump’s election victory than there is that Russia has influence over Corbyn.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I’m surprised you needed to ask. There’s more evidence of Russian collusion in Trump’s election victory than there is that Russia has influence over Corbyn.

What evidence? We know Corbyn is a Marxist. Lots of democrats have said collusion exists. I have yet to see any evidence linking Trump. If you have some please let the authorities in the usa know.

[je suis Charlie]

What evidence? We know Corbyn is a Marxist. Lots of democrats have said collusion exists. I have yet to see any evidence linking Trump. If you have some please let the authorities in the usa know.

The boys a dreamer, I really don't like to think that people with such a hateful view of the west as Newres are allowed to vote to be frank, probably making bombs in his mum's kitchen at the moment.

[newres]

What evidence? We know Corbyn is a Marxist. Lots of democrats have said collusion exists. I have yet to see any evidence linking Trump. If you have some please let the authorities in the usa know.

Well the FBI seem to think there’s some there. I’m guessing they know more than you.

[Andy Capp]

Like your russian puppet masters obey the law? Don't make me laugh you train riding libtard.

My Russian what? Your arguments are less than child like: illiterate, emotional claptrap.

[newres]

The boys a dreamer, I really don't like to think that people with such a hateful view of the west as Newres are allowed to vote to be frank, probably making bombs in his mum's kitchen at the moment.

Hey, the EU is the west. It’s you and your crew that hate the west. I’m very anti US foreign policy under Obama and Trump, but other than that I’m not anti US. The irony of your comment is astounding.

[SirWilliam]

I’m surprised you needed to ask. There’s more evidence of Russian collusion in Trump’s election victory than there is that Russia has influence over Corbyn.

I must admit I am at a total loss as to why the ruskies would want Trump over Clinton? Perhaps I am missing something but the last thing a bully needs is someone of an equal bloody mindedness to argue with over the telephone.

[Andy Capp]

Hey, the EU is the west. It’s you and your crew that hate the west. I’m very anti US foreign policy under Obama and Trump, but other than that I’m not anti US. The irony of your comment is astounding.

Any irony from JSC would be accidental; she doesn’t have the intelligence to do such a thing.

[Andy Capp]

I must admit I am at a total loss as to why the ruskies would want Trump over Clinton? Perhaps I am missing something but the last thing a bully needs is someone of an equal bloody mindedness to argue with over the telephone.

Divide and rule; the snag is the hysterical right wingers are too busy shrieking to notice; or bright enough to realise.

[newres]

I must admit I am at a total loss as to why the ruskies would want Trump over Clinton? Perhaps I am missing something but the last thing a bully needs is someone of an equal bloody mindedness to argue with over the telephone.

I’m guessing there are a number of reasons. Firstly the Russians have a hold over Trump and secondly I’m guessing it suits them to have a clown running their nemesis.

[x2lls]

Back on topic, freedom of speech.

Today I had a FANTASTIC time at Speakers Corner. I spoke to many people and the camaraderie was heartening. Those that represent the religion of peace were the violent ones!! Check out the web for the muppet in a black and white knitted hat hitting a woman with a weapon. Only ten minutes prior, I watched him shouting disgusting abuse at a couple of speakers not associated with the main event.

[x2lls]

[attachment=264:Imamofpeace.jpg]

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I’m guessing there are a number of reasons. Firstly the Russians have a hold over Trump and secondly I’m guessing it suits them to have a clown running their nemesis.

What proof do you have that the Russians have a "hold" over Trump? What drivel rubbish and nonsense.

[newres]

What proof do you have that the Russians have a "hold" over Trump? What drivel rubbish and nonsense.

19 indictments so far? Evidence rather than proof. What evidence do you have that Corbyn is Putin’s puppet.

[je suis Charlie]

I’m guessing there are a number of reasons. Firstly the Russians have a hold over Trump and secondly I’m guessing it suits them to have a clown running their nemesis.

Guessing, best you can do then, don't like the republicans, don't like democrats, certainly don't like the Jews, anybody left in America you do like?

[je suis Charlie]

19 indictments so far? Evidence rather than proof. What evidence do you have that Corbyn is Putin’s puppet.

Evidence, lots and lots of evidence.

[je suis Charlie]

Back on topic, freedom of speech.

Today I had a FANTASTIC time at Speakers Corner. I spoke to many people and the camaraderie was heartening. Those that represent the religion of peace were the violent ones!! Check out the web for the muppet in a black and white knitted hat hitting a woman with a weapon. Only ten minutes prior, I watched him shouting disgusting abuse at a couple of speakers not associated with the main event.

That's what the loony left call rational political discourse.

[je suis Charlie]

I see Newres is in the news today.

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/23...-lure-girl.html

[newres]

I see Newres is in the news today.

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/23...-lure-girl.html

Reported. Beyond acceptable.

[newres]

That's what the loony left call rational political discourse.

And Tommy the convicted fraudster and former leader of a far right group is rational?

[Turin Machine]

And Tommy the convicted fraudster and former leader of a far right group is rational?

At least he doesn't go around assaulting people for not having the same views as himself.

[Andy Capp]

At least he doesn't go around assaulting people for not having the same views as himself.

He’s got people to do that for him.

[x2lls]

He’s got people to do that for him.

I assume you have evidence to back that accusation up?

[Turin Machine]

"Asked whether he blamed Mr Putin for the attack, Mr McDonnell told ITV's Peston on Sunday: "I agree completely with the prime minister.

"What she's said is that Russia is culpable, either by direct commission - either [President] Putin's ordered this - or they've lost control of their supplies."

He added: "There's a pattern of people being murdered here, therefore it leads you to the conclusion that Putin has questions to answer, because this is highly likely this could have been a state execution."

The words 'rats' and 'sinking ship' spring to mind.

[SirWilliam]

Reported. Beyond acceptable.

Hear hear...........Ok to argue over political stance but to insult on a personal level is neither funny nor acceptable

[Turin Machine]

While he feels that posting racist and anti-Semitic opinions are ok?

[Cognosco]

While he feels that posting racist and anti-Semitic opinions are ok?

I do wish you children would play nicely..........if nothing changes then you will not be allowed in the playground!

[newres]

While he feels that posting racist and anti-Semitic opinions are ok?

Where are these posts?

[Turin Machine]

Where are these posts?

"Written by a jew. Hardly an independent view is it?"

"he is Jewish and it's his tribe that maims baby boys"

"The rest are no different to FGM or African facial scars - purely tribal."

"Muslims do this too for tribal reasons. It’s not just Jews."

"There isn't really a case for circumcision being beneficial except in AIDS ridden countries "

Let's start with these.

[newres]

"Written by a jew. Hardly an independent view is it?"

"he is Jewish and it's his tribe that maims baby boys"

"The rest are no different to FGM or African facial scars - purely tribal."

"Muslims do this too for tribal reasons. It’s not just Jews."

"There isn't really a case for circumcision being beneficial except in AIDS ridden countries "

Let's start with these.

They are all factual as far as I can see. The language is slightly brusque (tribal and maiming) so that you can compare it with your language around Muslims, but there is nothing anti semitic and are only there to demonstrate your hypocrisy around FGM and Halal.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

They are all factual as far as I can see. The language is slightly brusque (tribal and maiming) so that you can compare it with your language around Muslims, but there is nothing anti semitic and are only there to demonstrate your hypocrisy around FGM and Halal.

Why not put your money where your mouth is and move to an area consistent with your views. Telford?

[newres]

Why not put your money where your mouth is and move to an area consistent with your views. Telford?

Perhaps you should. 1930s Germany.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Perhaps you should. 1930s Germany.

With your anti semite views I'll leave that for you.

[newres]

With your anti semite views I'll leave that for you.

I'm probably anti Israeli, but I'm not anti semitic. I'm anti Saudi Arabia, but I'm not anti Muslim. You get easily confused don't you.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

I'm probably anti Israeli, but I'm not anti semitic. I'm anti Saudi Arabia, but I'm not anti Muslim. You get easily confused don't you.

So if I said I'm anti Pakistan and Somalia thats Ok with you? Israel is the home of the Jews. You make no sense. Whatsoever. Me. I'm anti terrorist. But you want to understand them and have a chat. Bless.

[newres]

So if I said I'm anti Pakistan and Somalia thats Ok with you? Israel is the home of the Jews. You make no sense. Whatsoever. Me. I'm anti terrorist. But you want to understand them and have a chat. Bless.

Well you must be anti Israeli then since Israel was founded on terrorism. See - confused.

[Turin Machine]

Well you must be anti Israeli then since Israel was founded on terrorism. See - confused.

Oh really? Please elucidate.

[Andy Capp]

Oh really? Please elucidate.

It seems some local Jews formed militias with the sole intent to expell the Brits and Arabs.

https://www.britain-in-palestine.com/jewish...or-in-palestine

“As the plight of Europe’s Jews caught the world’s attention, Jewish militias in Palestine, aided by illegal terrorist cells, carried out a series of attacks designed to get the British to leave Palestine. No holds were barred as soldiers, policemen and civilians were attacked and buildings blown up with the sole aim of terrorising the British and the Arabs. This Jewish terrorism was a major factor in Britain’s decision finally to wash its hands of the Mandate.”

[Turin Machine]

However, Both the Irgun and the Lehi focused their attention on British military and governmental targets. Civilians were killed, but they were not generally targeted. The Jewish underground also often called in warnings before attacking targets, Palestinian terrorism, on the other hand, has been often indiscriminate and frequently directed specifically at civilians. So, one attacks military and one attacks civilians, who's the least in need of censure?

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Well you must be anti Israeli then since Israel was founded on terrorism. See - confused.

I guess that makes South Africa a rogue state. Nelson Mandela.
By your logic.

[Turin Machine]

Technically is any nation not founded on terrorism?

[newres]

However, Both the Irgun and the Lehi focused their attention on British military and governmental targets. Civilians were killed, but they were not generally targeted. The Jewish underground also often called in warnings before attacking targets, Palestinian terrorism, on the other hand, has been often indiscriminate and frequently directed specifically at civilians. So, one attacks military and one attacks civilians, who's the least in need of censure?

The IRA did all of that. Are they alright then?

[je suis Charlie]

I'm probably anti Israeli, but I'm not anti semitic. I'm anti Saudi Arabia, but I'm not anti Muslim. You get easily confused don't you.

You're very confused aren't you. Confused and anti Semitic. We do however accept your claim not to be anti Muslim. That much is very obvious.

[newres]

I guess that makes South Africa a rogue state. Nelson Mandela.
By your logic.

No, but then it doesn’t terrorise it’s neighbours or occupy territory illegally.

[newres]

You're very confused aren't you. Confused and anti Semitic. We do however accept your claim not to be anti Muslim. That much is very obvious.

Well at least I don’t resort to calling people paedophiles when I can’t win an argument.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Germany have just fallen from 14th to 51st in the worlds safest countries to visit (we are 41st). Anyone got any idea why? Im puzzled???😂

[TallDarkAndHands...]

No, but then it doesn’t terrorise it’s neighbours or occupy territory illegally.

Nope nothing to see here...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/af...s-a8262306.html

So in ten years time when South Africa is Zimbabwe2 don't come with a begging bowl. You reap what you sow.. Or in the case of soon to be South Africa.. What you don't....

Have you actually spoken to any black South Africans in the UK? I have. Some of them think life was better under apartheid. Thats how sh1t it is.

[je suis Charlie]

Germany have just fallen from 14th to 51st in the worlds safest countries to visit (we are 41st). Anyone got any idea why? Im puzzled???😂

Wonder why? Check Sweden for us, see where that is. Out of interest, oh and Poland. Ta.

[je suis Charlie]

Nope nothing to see here...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/af...s-a8262306.html

So in ten years time when South Africa is Zimbabwe2 don't come with a begging bowl. You reap what you sow.. Or in the case of soon to be South Africa.. What you don't....

Have you actually spoken to any black South Africans in the UK? I have. Some of them think life was better under apartheid. Thats how sh1t it is.

Don't forget the staggering amount of corruption there as well.

[SirWilliam]

Technically is any nation not founded on terrorism?

The old adage that one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter will always hold sway. The Romans had the Iceni to contend with, William the B*****d Hereward the Wake and the Hanoverians the Jacobites. History is full of conflict and the good guy didn't win every time. The problem is that we have not found a viable alternative to violence to settle our disagreements. Some of the vitriolic comments on this provincial forum show just how easy it is to get the red mist descending.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

The old adage that one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter will always hold sway. The Romans had the Iceni to contend with, William the B*****d Hereward the Wake and the Hanoverians the Jacobites. History is full of conflict and the good guy didn't win every time. The problem is that we have not found a viable alternative to violence to settle our disagreements. Some of the vitriolic comments on this provincial forum show just how easy it is to get the red mist descending.

Do you want some? Come on... Outside.😂

[je suis Charlie]

No, but then it doesn’t terrorise it’s neighbours or occupy territory illegally.

In a 2006 survey, the South African Migration Project concluded that South Africans are more opposed to immigration than anywhere else in the world.

[Andy Capp]

However, Both the Irgun and the Lehi focused their attention on British military and governmental targets. Civilians were killed, but they were not generally targeted. The Jewish underground also often called in warnings before attacking targets, Palestinian terrorism, on the other hand, has been often indiscriminate and frequently directed specifically at civilians. So, one attacks military and one attacks civilians, who's the least in need of censure?

Twaddle; I’d be embarrassed to post that.

[x2lls]

I assume you have evidence to back that accusation up?

Well after 11 hours, I assume not.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Well you must be anti Israeli then since Israel was founded on terrorism. See - confused.

I said I'm anti terrorist. I didnt say I wasn't anti Israel. I dislike ALL terrorism. You see. Its quite simple. Some Muslims belive it or not would cut your head off live on air and p1ss down your neck. Just like some white Christian evangelist might shoot you with an assualt rifle. Both would do it in the name of a sky fairy. Its just its far more likely at the moment to be a muslim. In my opinion.

[x2lls]

Well you must be anti Israeli then since Israel was founded on terrorism. See - confused.

Indirectly, Israel is founded on the actions of a dictator. Had WW2 not happened, I doubt it would exist today.

[Turin Machine]

Twaddle; I’d be embarrassed to post that.

Really, it comes from a very good source to whit, Daniel Kurtzer, the former U.S. ambassador to Egypt and Israel, who is the S. Daniel Abraham Professor of Middle East policy studies at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs. He wrote it as part of a critique of 'ANONYMOUS SOLDIERS'
The Struggle for Israel, 1917-1947
By Bruce Hoffman

So I have a choice of who to listen to, a celebrated expert in middle East affairs and long time ambassador to the region, or I can listen to you. Wonder which one has the more valid opinion?

[Turin Machine]

In a 2006 survey, the South African Migration Project concluded that South Africans are more opposed to immigration than anywhere else in the world.

It's a funny old world, Say that about Britain and the 'tards would be screaming blue murder, say it about South Africa, not a murmer.

[newres]

Indirectly, Israel is founded on the actions of a dictator. Had WW2 not happened, I doubt it would exist today.

I bet it would. Zionism predates Hitler as I’m sure you know . It gave it impetus obviously.

[newres]

It's a funny old world, Say that about Britain and the 'tards would be screaming blue murder, say it about South Africa, not a murmer.

Possibly because it was totally random.

[TallDarkAndHands...]

Possibly because it was totally random.

Just as a matter of interest if this had been say John Smith aged 45 from Dover who spent a lot of time in lets say Wetherspoons and he had crashed his car into an Islamic wedding rather than a nightclub would this be not major news? Pretty certain he would be in Belmarsh already as a terrorist. I'm pretty sure its just someone losing "the plot" who just happens to have a Muslim name. But Im sure if it had been said "John Smith" newres would have been all over it like a rash....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-kent-43456736