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dannyboy
post Aug 20 2013, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE (Berkshirelad @ Aug 20 2013, 11:58 AM) *
Monbiot? Unbiased?

I think not. He is one of the most vociferous 'global warming - we're all doomed' brigade

We are. You can see it in this thread.
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Aug 19 2013, 11:17 PM) *
What do you mean? It has a boot and is not unlike the size of a Ford Focus.

Last time I looked at one (admittedly a fair few years back) it was all battery and no boot.
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Blake
post Aug 20 2013, 04:29 PM
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The current generation is a huge advance on the previous.
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post Aug 20 2013, 07:35 PM
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Do you work for Toyota?


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post Aug 22 2013, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 18 2013, 07:16 PM) *
But it's not profiteering, not if you can choose to buy elsewhere.


just because I happen to visit far and wide is irrelevant in this discussion as many older drivers or invalids do not travel far for their own personal reason…

Motorway service stations are prime examples of profiteering in all the goods they sell by merely being there. Those motorists who are driving down the motorway looking for a small porcelain cottage to aid the journey may not know the local area off the motorway and the SS know it and abuse them because of it. Similarly buying a burger at Silverstone GP weekend. The list is endless.


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post Aug 22 2013, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE (r.bartlett @ Aug 22 2013, 10:15 PM) *
just because I happen to visit far and wide is irrelevant in this discussion as many older drivers or invalids do not travel far for their own personal reason…

Sure, but if you're doing such small mileage you're not going to be using so very much fuel, and for those drivers the down-side of living somewhere affluent like Newbury is that their annual petrol bill is going to be in the order of £10 more expensive than if they lived in somewhere grotty like Redditch. Just running a car costs you annually a couple of grand in insurance, tax, mot, serving, and depreciation, and compared to that the fuel cost difference is vanishingly small, whereas running a small efficient car will save maybe a thousand times as much.

QUOTE (r.bartlett @ Aug 22 2013, 10:15 PM) *
Motorway service stations are prime examples of profiteering in all the goods they sell by merely being there. Those motorists who are driving down the motorway looking for a small porcelain cottage to aid the journey may not know the local area off the motorway and the SS know it and abuse them because of it. Similarly buying a burger at Silverstone GP weekend. The list is endless.

Yes indeed, the precious things of the shop are much better value locally. Are you local?


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post Aug 22 2013, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (Simon Kirby @ Aug 22 2013, 11:00 PM) *
Yes indeed, the precious things of the shop are much better value locally. Are you local?




This is why Simon and I get on so well.


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post Aug 23 2013, 12:26 AM
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If we are to percive higher prices as a measure of higher demand, then I presume Newbury is bucking the trend in the country's cutting back on fuel expenditure?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/money/personal-fin...nth-low-2207700
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post Aug 23 2013, 08:57 AM
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motormad - what exactly are those strange people doing in your animated gif?
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post Aug 23 2013, 10:20 AM
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Still, one good thing is that the government is to invest £94 million in a cycling revolution akin to the infrastructure in the Netherlands. Cycling is a green and efficient means of local transport so it should help us stay fit, help cut CO2 emissions and save us money in gas.
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post Aug 23 2013, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Aug 23 2013, 11:20 AM) *
Still, one good thing is that the government is to invest £94 million in a cycling revolution akin to the infrastructure in the Netherlands. Cycling is a green and efficient means of local transport so it should help us stay fit, help cut CO2 emissions and save us money in gas.

I don't understand how cycling saves money in gas. Is the government proposing some kind of compulsory installation of methane collecting apparatus attached to bike saddles?


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post Aug 23 2013, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Aug 23 2013, 11:20 AM) *
Still, one good thing is that the government is to invest £94 million in a cycling revolution akin to the infrastructure in the Netherlands. Cycling is a green and efficient means of local transport so it should help us stay fit, help cut CO2 emissions and save us money in gas.


It also means you arrive at work sweaty at best, and under a bus at the worst


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post Aug 23 2013, 11:35 AM
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Biking is OK, but bike technology is old fashioned and people still get too many punctures. Then there's wind, rain, hills (in Newbury), thieves, vandals, etc.
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post Aug 23 2013, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (JeffG @ Aug 23 2013, 09:57 AM) *
motormad - what exactly are those strange people doing in your animated gif?


If you have to ask you aren't ready.


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post Aug 23 2013, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (Blake @ Aug 23 2013, 12:20 PM) *
Still, one good thing is that the government is to invest £94 million in a cycling revolution akin to the infrastructure in the Netherlands.

Pity that cyclists aren't paying for it!
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post Aug 23 2013, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 23 2013, 01:44 PM) *
Pity that cyclists aren't paying for it!

They are, along with everyone else! wink.gif
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post Aug 23 2013, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 23 2013, 03:05 PM) *
along with everyone else! wink.gif

Exactly!
Why shouldn't cyclists contribute, as do other users of vehicles especially if they want all these wonderful facilities?
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post Aug 23 2013, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 23 2013, 12:35 PM) *
Biking is OK, but bike technology is old fashioned and people still get too many punctures. Then there's wind, rain, hills (in Newbury), thieves, vandals, etc.


But car technology is old fashioned: they are about 75% mechanically inefficient, you get punctures, road tax, expensive repairs, parking tickets higher and higher gas prices, pile-ups, numpty BMW driving muppets, thieves, vandals etc. Also, if WBC gets its nasty way, more and more on-street parking charges!
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dannyboy
post Aug 23 2013, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (Biker1 @ Aug 23 2013, 02:27 PM) *
Exactly!
Why shouldn't cyclists contribute, as do other users of vehicles especially if they want all these wonderful facilities?


Most cyclists do pay tax and therefore will be paying towards these 'wonderful facilities'.
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post Aug 23 2013, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Aug 23 2013, 03:52 PM) *
Most cyclists do pay tax

Not many of the cyclists I see.
Probably on benefits and unlikely they even paid for the bike! wink.gif
Look, I'm not against cycling and cyclists and agree that it is a good thing both from a health and environmental point of view, but I think they should pay their way and they should adhere to the laws and regulations of the highway.
That's all I ask. huh.gif
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