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Another long road closure by TVP, A fatal RTA yes; but 12 hours road closure |
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Feb 12 2013, 05:57 PM
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I still find hard to compehend, even when crash is fatal, why TVP feel justified in keeping main route in Reading closed, for half a day. Surely they could gather enough evidence after just a few hours; I recall they invested in some new laser measuring equipment recently so closures would be for less duration? It was total unnecessary loss of life caused by young driver feeling invincible it seems, ignoring police directions to stop. The story involved.
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Feb 13 2013, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE (Strafin @ Feb 12 2013, 09:09 PM) Not sure it's anything to do with age, you just sound mean. Kind of mean. It was a shame to lose a young life and it's a bit of a stupid thing to have happened. Although it's stupid, it's not on the same level as that Ford River Crossing thing. Aside from the questionable comments of "just another young driver thinking they are invincible", because yes, running from the police makes you feel invincible..... ???? We do not know the circumstances surrounding the accident. Who knows what has gone on? On an unrelated note that looks like it's on the A33 near the new development, it's basically a straight road... how do you manage to crash there lol. The comments on the Daily Mail infuriate me, I'd like to really see the kind of racist slash biggot slash communist person who takes any pleasure in reading anything posted on their website or printed in their paper, or posting on their message boards. Yeah, no seatbelt, ohhh bet no insurance, ohhhh young drivers tearing it up everywhere, ohhhh this and that, makes me want to drive my car into their living room (not that I would ) and frankly as a young driver (there is no correlation between age and quality of driving let's remember) I'm sort of sick of the barage of hatred we get. Just wait till 3am and I sit outside your house on the rev limiter, then you can get angry. But the majority of us just want to have fun sitting peacefully in a car park drinking fizzy beverages. There are times where it's better for the police to just back off and leave it because in most cases cars are quite easily traceable and Reading has a big infrastructure of cameras for road monitoring so it's not like they would not have found him. However I'm not going to stray away from the fact that matey driving it should have pulled over in the first instance and there's no excuse for not doing so. That is also a major trunk road (basically the only way in and out of Reading from the motorway side) and 12 hours is a stupidly long amount of time. At the end of the day no-one else was reported as being involved, there should be video evidence on the police car (assuming it's a traffic car as I don't think Panda cars can actually engage in a "chase") - and well it does not take 12 hours to say "yup, the car crashed here and ended up here" and take a few photos.
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Feb 13 2013, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Feb 13 2013, 02:51 AM) However I'm not going to stray away from the fact that matey driving it should have pulled over in the first instance and there's no excuse for not doing so. And therein lies the crux of the whole matter.
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Feb 13 2013, 06:48 PM
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Yes, the folly of the Youth. It could have easily been someone with hair growing out of their ears. QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 13 2013, 01:35 PM) Although it's stupid, it's not on the same level as that Ford River Crossing thing.
Quite correct. Ignoring a police request to stop is far, far more stupid than mis-judging the depth of water at a ford you are unfamiliar with. That is arguable. I believe it's more stupid to drive into a Ford than it is to run away. Choosing to run from the police is a concious decision, you don't do it on Autopilot unlike the people in the ford story(stories) we have read so much about.
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Feb 13 2013, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Feb 13 2013, 06:48 PM) Yes, the folly of the Youth. It could have easily been someone with hair growing out of their ears.
That is arguable. I believe it's more stupid to drive into a Ford than it is to run away. Choosing to run from the police is a concious decision, you don't do it on Autopilot unlike the people in the ford story(stories) we have read so much about. So because you decide to do something that makes it more acceptable, less stupid. ergo - If I decide to swerve in order to hit a cat in the road, that is less stupid than hitting a cat because I didn't see it.
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Feb 13 2013, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Feb 13 2013, 12:51 AM) ..(there is no correlation between age and quality of driving let's remember) .. There is lots of correlation between age and quality of driving - statistically young males are significantly more likely to be involved in accidents than any other group. Which is why they find insurance so expensive.
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Feb 13 2013, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE (dannyboy @ Feb 13 2013, 07:42 PM) So because you decide to do something that makes it more acceptable, less stupid.
ergo - If I decide to swerve in order to hit a cat in the road, that is less stupid than hitting a cat because I didn't see it. Uhhh.. what? My point is, deciding to run from the police is dumb. Driving into a Ford (you know, a big body of water with an unknown depth especially after at the end of basically the wettest year since "records began"!) at such a speed that you get stuck or worse killed because your Sat-Nav says it's fine is stupid. And on an unrelated note, where do cats come into this? A cat is a small furry object which is cute and fluffy which perhaps at night might be hard to see. A large body of water on the other hand would be akin to driving into a Blue Whale which on the other hand is not cute and fluffy and infact rather ugly, that being said it's never the answer on QI either. QUOTE (blackdog @ Feb 13 2013, 08:37 PM) There is lots of correlation between age and quality of driving - statistically young males are significantly more likely to be involved in accidents than any other group. Which is why they find insurance so expensive. Okay, and what's the average age of perhaps the World Rally Championship field, or the Formula 1 field? Not going to be in your 30s, let me tell you!! Just because you are involved in an accident does not mean you are a "bad" driver. Perhaps less "safe", yes, and as we know, just because you have a crash does not make you a bad driver. I know some absolutely terrible drivers who have never had an accident, purely by luck, and yet some of the best drivers I know have been unfortunate enough to be involved in some, this time by bad luck.
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Feb 13 2013, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Feb 13 2013, 09:13 PM) Uhhh.. what? Ah, I didn't realise that this was a semantics debate.
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Feb 13 2013, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (motormad @ Feb 13 2013, 09:13 PM) My point is, deciding to run from the police is dumb. Driving into a Ford (you know, a big body of water with an unknown depth especially after at the end of basically the wettest year since "records began"!) at such a speed that you get stuck or worse killed because your Sat-Nav says it's fine is stupid. Dumb and stupid mean much the same in this argument. QUOTE (motormad @ Feb 13 2013, 09:13 PM) I know some absolutely terrible drivers who have never had an accident, purely by luck, and yet some of the best drivers I know have been unfortunate enough to be involved in some, this time by bad luck. Knowing some good or bad drivers doesn't get away from the statistic that younger drivers have more 'accidents'.
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