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25 years ago a sad day that shocked the UK, Michael Ryan carriied out mass murder nearby |
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Aug 20 2012, 07:34 AM
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No doubt gel you'll receive more posts from people like myself who were there that day that believe this is still a very sensitive topic. There was no need to have posted the photo.
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Aug 20 2012, 09:02 AM
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It would be very much appreciated by all that were affected if you could please remove the photo. Thank-you.
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Aug 20 2012, 01:09 PM
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I'm honestly not trying to be combative because I know it's a senstive subject but....
The BBC article carries a picture of Ryan himself and, on the very same page, also includes a link to a chronicle entry about Dunblane.
Has anyone asked the BBC to remove the picture of Ryan, or the article about Dunblane, or, while we're at it, any content about any horrible event in history that we'd rather forget about?
If people who understandably still feel sensitive about Hungerford choose to read a thread titled "25 years ago a sad day that shook the UK - Michael Ryan carried out mass murder nearby" then they really shouldn't be suprised by the thread content.
What I think is a bit odd is how the local newspaper, which you would have thought would be the only news organisation to approach it with sensitivity, simple ignores it as a matter of policy. Don't mention ze war.
Interesting thread Gel, thanks for the link to the BBC article.
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Aug 20 2012, 02:41 PM
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I was living in Hungerford at tlhat time, and if, after 25 years there are some who get 'upset' by pictures of Ryans house going up, then they need help. PTSD can take years to sort out. They should seek treatment. Anyone who was in Hungerford that afternoon and now lives to tell the tell is in fine shape and should give thanks everyday for how lucky they are, not cower behind the settee whenever a picture of the event comes onto the screen.
When Hamilton stalked through the school at Dunblane one of the children there was Andy Murray, The logic here seems to be 'don't televise his tennis matches because it might upset those who lived through it'.
What would be more pertinent would be to find out how it was that an armed gunman was allowed to roam the streets, set fire to buildings, and shoot whomsoever he wanted to for FIVE hours, without ever once being challenged by the Police. That's the most upsetting bit.
Ian Tomlinson couldn't even make it home.
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Aug 20 2012, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Aug 20 2012, 03:41 PM) I was living in Hungerford at tlhat time, and if, after 25 years there are some who get 'upset' by pictures of Ryans house going up, then they need help. PTSD can take years to sort out. They should seek treatment. No-one is saying they are "upset" by the picture or thread if you read. Just that they do not see the need for this. None of the posters here "needs treatment" just a little respect. Thanks.
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Aug 20 2012, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (Andy Capp @ Aug 20 2012, 03:18 PM) I think people are being a little over-sensitive to the OP's picture. Having said that, if I was asked to remove a picture, under the circumstances, I probably would, especially if it were someone who lived or knew people who live in one of the houses shown. I think this is spot on. A better picture to have posted maybe would be that of a memorial to the victims.
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Aug 20 2012, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (DZPhoto @ Aug 20 2012, 10:02 AM) It would be very much appreciated by all that were affected if you could please remove the photo. Thank-you. I was affected by it, and I don't care if the picture stays or goes. Please don't pretend to talk for me. It's a house burning. It's a pity Ryan wasn't in it. Get over it.
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Aug 20 2012, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE (Weavers Walk @ Aug 20 2012, 03:41 PM) What would be more pertinent would be to find out how it was that an armed gunman was allowed to roam the streets, set fire to buildings, and shoot whomsoever he wanted to for FIVE hours, without ever once being challenged by the Police. That's the most upsetting bit.
Ian Tomlinson couldn't even make it home. The two events you seem to compare are a quarter of a century apart, and I am not sure what you mean. Of course, these days the police are much better trained and equipped to deal with a firearms incident. I remember the criticism of the delay at the time, but then the public wanted, and probably still want today, a routinely unarmed police. Today, specialist skills can be expected to arrive at the scene of an incident very quickly, in 1987 that was not the case.
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Aug 20 2012, 06:35 PM
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I would prefer it if there were not a picture but simple a reference to remember those lost and injured if anything. Some of us remember this not just once a year but every day. As for the comments about getting over it. Each person deals with things in a different way and I don't think its wrong to ask for reservation on bringing up the subject. It was horrific. It remains a horrific event in mine and others lives. I does not define my life. I do not need to get over anything. And with regard to Police attendance. They did attend. This event was a defining moment in the history of police response to such incidents. Scrutinising it 25yrs later helps no one.
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Aug 20 2012, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE (March Hair @ Aug 20 2012, 07:35 PM) Some of us remember this not just once a year but every day. For 25 years? QUOTE (March Hair @ Aug 20 2012, 07:35 PM) I do not need to get over anything.
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